My name is Judy Jordan and I am a Licensed Marriage Family Therapist with over 20 years years of professional experience in counseling with children,, adults, and families. I took an evening course in Psychology 5 when starting school, and by the end of it , I knew I wanted to become a therapist. I was drawn to understanding people on a deeper level and helping them through their struggles. With support from my dad, I left my job and went back to school starting from scratch. I loved every minute of learning and felt more certain with each class that I was on the right path. My dedication paid off...I earned straight A's and received the Academic Achievement Award in Psychology. More importantly I found a sense of purpose in supporting others on their mental health journeys.

My name is Thomas Barhorst, and I started counseling in 2004. In addition to having a small private practice shortly after I received my Missouri license in 2007; I have worked as a K-12 school counselor, in substance use treatment, in a residential treatment setting, in a community mental health agency, helping individuals with disabilities transition into the workforce, and helping graduate students manage stress in their professional programs (i.e. medical school, dental school, etc.). Recently, I have begun providing telehealth therapy after obtaining licensure in Arizona and California. Outside of work, spending time with family and friends is important to me. I also enjoy stories, laughing, listening to stand-up comedy, cooking, playing sports like wallyball and ultimate frisbee on a non-competitive level, watching film noir and psychological thrillers, recently had the opportunity to take my car to a racetrack, and have played bass guitar in a rock band.

I bring a unique, well-rounded perspective to my practice, drawing on a diverse professional background to connect with clients. As a parent in a blended family, I deeply understand the complexities of modern relationships and the importance of resilience. Outside of the office, you’ll find me hiking, cooking, spending time with family and friends, listening to live music, and playing pickleball. I am President Elect of RECAMFT (Redwood Empire California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists) and have been on the board for five years. I am dedicated to creating a warm, supportive space where you can feel heard and empowered to grow.

Kudos on taking this first step toward change! I am a licensed psychologist, licensed marriage and family therapist, and an international parenting, divorce, and coparenting coach. You can read my full bio here: family-options.com/dr-tracy-mallett-bio. I have been working with single adults, couples, children and families for over 20 years. My clients learn to overcome issues such as anxiety, depression, stress, and trauma; poor self-worth; relationship struggles; and many other challenges in their lives. I have expertise working with couples and families in conflict, or who are struggling with communication. I am Level II trained in the Gottman Method, and utilize this extensively with couples. My clients report successes such as trauma recovery; anxiety and depression reduction; managing existential and identity issues; gaining peace of mind; reducing stress; and controlling anger. I have counseled in mental health, addiction treatment, and criminal justice settings. I have a private practice in south Florida (family-options.com), where I supervise master's level mental health counseling and psychology trainees. In addition to Florida, I am licensed as a psychologist in California, Texas, Arizona and Iowa, and am a PSYPACT credentialed clinician, having obtained an Authority to Practice Interjurisdictional Telepsychology (APIT) from the PSYPACT Commission, which also allows me to serve clients via telehealth in most US states. I also teach graduate-level courses in ethics, disaster and trauma response, abnormal behavior, community counseling, and criminal behavior, and I mentor graduate dissertation students in forensic psychology.

As a black female school-based therapist, my dream client is one who approaches therapy with openness, honesty, and a willingness to engage in the process of self-discovery and growth. My dream client understands the importance of mental health and values the support that therapy can provide in navigating the challenges of adolescence. Ideally, my dream client is someone who is eager to explore their identity, including aspects of race, culture, and gender, in a safe and affirming space. They are open to discussing sensitive topics and are willing to challenge societal norms and expectations that may be impacting their well-being. My dream client is proactive in their approach to therapy, actively participating in sessions, completing assigned tasks or homework, and practicing coping skills outside of our sessions. They understand that therapy is a collaborative effort and are committed to working together to achieve their goals. Additionally, my dream client is respectful, compassionate, and empathetic towards others, fostering a sense of community and support within the therapeutic environment. They are open to learning from different perspectives and are willing to engage in discussions around social justice, equity, and inclusion. Overall, my dream client is someone who is committed to their personal growth and development, embraces their uniqueness, and values the power of therapy in fostering resilience and well-being.

Hi, I am Yeny! I am a licensed Marriage and Family therapist, Latina (ablo espanol). I have worked in the communities of Los Angeles for 20 years, with different socio-economic status and age groups from as young as 3 years to end of life. I am a passionate, compassionate psychotherapist, counselor and life coach who wants to empower people in their journey of becoming a better version of themselves. In a safe space that will navigate with clients the areas of depression, self-esteem, culture, family, and relationships.

I am Jaron Haynes, an African American/Native American licensed therapist with 20 years of clinical experience which includes working with families, adolescents, the chronically mentally ill, those struggling with substance abuse and addiction, PTSD, trauma, anxiety, domestic violence, and personality disorders. As an expert in Marriage & Family Therapy he brings to the team a wealth of knowledge and vast experience to provide the highest quality of care and patience necessary for even those high conflict parenting clients. Jaron is a licensed professional that exhibits compassion and empathy. His passion to help those in need and his desire to give back to the community that helped shape him has led him to work with clients from diverse populations and cultural backgrounds.

Migdalia Villafane or “Dalia” as she prefers to be called believes that the therapeutic relationship is to assist individuals through therapy, changing the individuals’ lives for the better. Because this relationship is so essential, she believes it is important that she provides a safe, open and non-judgmental atmosphere where an individual can feel at ease. She knows that no single approach is the right one for every individual, so, she utilizes a range of therapeutic approaches such as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Solutions Focused, Family Systems, as well as mindfulness training. Her educational background includes an MSW from the University of Southern California and she is licensed in the state of California as an LCSW.

Hi, I’m Denise Welsh, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker dedicated to supporting children and adolescents in navigating life’s challenges. With extensive experience in school-based mental health, I work closely with students and families to address anxiety, stress, behavioral concerns, peer relationships, and emotional well-being. I understand the pressures that students face today—both academically and socially—and I strive to create a supportive space where they feel safe, heard, and understood.

As a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT), I specialize in working with children, teens, adults, couples, and families to address a wide range of mental health concerns. My practice supports individuals navigating life transitions, engaging in self-exploration, or managing the everyday challenges that come with balancing responsibilities and relationships. I have extensive experience helping clients work through anxiety, depression, eating disorders, postpartum concerns, family stress, and relational difficulties. My approach is integrative and tailored to each client’s unique needs, drawing from various therapeutic modalities to create a personalized, goal-oriented path toward healing. At the core of my philosophy is the belief that every individual possesses the strength and capacity to create meaningful change. My role is to guide and support you in that process, helping you move toward greater balance, emotional well-being, and a more fulfilling life.

Are you a young person trying to hold it together while juggling school, work, family stuff, on top of new adulting responsibilities and the world feeling like it's on fire? I am a queer 2nd-gen Asian therapist offering space to discuss systems issues like politics, racism, homophobia, and how they impact our mental health. I work from a psychodynamic and relational approach, meaning we collect the pieces of your life story you've taken from past relationships and experiences and examine them, looking for new ways to write your own story. I also integrate skills and strategies to help you manage boundaries and tolerate uncertainty. Most of my experience has been with children and teens at Kaiser Permanente over the last 6 years. I have also worked in research settings with folks experiencing psychosis and college-aged students. At present, I am providing crisis evaluations at a local non-profit in SF in addition to this practice.

I am a Marriage and Family Therapist and School Psychologist. Therefore, I am familiar with how academic struggles can impact mental health and how mental health can impact academic success. I received my Masters from Pepperdine University and have been practicing for 15 years. I am fluent in English and Spanish and enjoy working with individuals between the ages of 13 and 17. I specialize in Depression and Anxiety as well as family and peer relationships.

Life is ever-evolving, and sometimes we need a partner to help us navigate its changing tides. Together, we will focus on building your resilience and capacity for whatever comes next. Our work is practical and action-oriented; we'll identify tangible coping skills you can apply to your daily life, while working to shift negative self-talk into a more supportive mindset. I believe the best work happens in an environment of trust, which is why I always welcome feedback and invite a spirit of shared accountability in our sessions.

My name is Yana Katsura, and I am a LMFT based in Roseville, California, offering both in-person and Telehealth services. I specialize in working with children, adolescents, and young adults and utilize Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Psychodynamic, Client-Centered, Systems, and faith-based therapy. My experience includes working with individuals ranging from children to adults experiencing various mental health struggles as well as at-risk and foster/adoption youth requiring intensive therapy services. I have worked at community-based, non-profit, and group practice settings, serving populations of diverse backgrounds and in various life circumstances.

You may be feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or unsure how to move forward. Maybe anxiety is taking up too much space, relationships feel strained, or you find yourself repeating patterns you thought you had already worked through. You want clarity, balance, and healthier ways of responding — but you’re not sure where to start. I’m a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with over 13 years of experience supporting adults, adolescents, and families. I believe each person already holds insight and strength within them. My role is to walk alongside you with compassion and curiosity, helping you uncover deeper understanding, build on your strengths, and make intentional choices aligned with your values. My approach is culturally responsive, trauma-informed, and grounded in mutual respect. Together, we’ll focus on practical tools to manage day-to-day challenges while also exploring deeper patterns that may be getting in the way of feeling grounded, connected, or confident.

I feel very fortunate to have grown up in the Bay Area, but never truly appreciated it until I left and came back. I attended high school in Marin at the Branson School in Ross. After High School I left for Wheaton College in Massachusetts where I earned a B.A. in Psychology. I moved to Florida where I received my Masters Degree in Clinical Psychology from the University of Central Florida. Prior to earning my Masters in Psychology I spent a number of years working in child and adolescent residential treatment centers in both San Francisco and Orlando, Florida. It was at this time that I fell in love with working with adolescents, adults, and their families. After graduate school, I found myself working for, and soon thereafter managing, an inpatient treatment program for adolescents who had experienced severe trauma. I returned to California for good in 2011 where I started working as the Lead Therapist for the Adolescent Outpatient Program at Fremont Hospital. I opened a part time private practice in 2012 and transitioned to a full time practice in San Francisco in early 2013.

I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) that specializes in complex trauma and personality disorders. I also have extensive experience working with those who struggle with mood disorders, depression, anxiety, psychosis, and substance abuse. I have training in various modalities to address the specific needs of my clients. I believe in the importance of connections with others, with ourselves, and with our environment. I believe that we can heal from past experiences and find balance in our lives. I believe that we all have the abilities to find meaning, purpose and live the best quality of life possible.

Dana has over 30 years of clinical experience facilitating emotional healing transformation in a vast diversity of populations, including couples and marital dynamics, crisis intervention, substance abuse, eating disorders, family systems and children and adolescents, often incorporating eclectic treatment modalities (CBT, DBT, EMDR, Person-centered, object relations, analytical, and Jungian). Client testimonials frequently express appreciation for her warm, grounded approachability and efficacious, nurturing interventions. From her Clinical Director and Lead Therapist positions, Dana maintains a humanistic Supervisory Leader-to-entry level perspective toward folks obtaining mastery of their unique individual agency healing, growing, sharing consciousness clarity and well-being.

My name is Doreen Hoornbeek and I’m an LMFT in Southern California. I’m the mother of 3 teens/young adults and maintain an active lifestyle. Being outdoors brings balance to my life and I love ocean kayaking, horseback riding and hiking. As a clinician I’m passionate about facilitating the healing process by assisting individuals in reaching their potential. By identifying one's strengths, we learn that resilience is within us with support through the counseling process. Growth, change and healing are possible and within reach. I have 15 years of experience working with children, teens, adults and families in need of tools to cope with a variety of challenges. I offer culturally competent care and provide a safe place for all who struggle with life's concerns.

I am a dedicated therapist with over a decade of experience helping clients navigate emotional challenges and create meaningful change in their lives. Since 2010, I have been using Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), and Solution-Focused Brief Therapy (SFBT) to support individuals struggling with anxiety, depression, self-esteem issues, relationship difficulties, and emotional regulation. My goal is to empower clients by providing practical tools and strategies that promote resilience, emotional balance, and personal growth, helping them build fulfilling and healthier lives.

Hello and thank you so much for having enough courage and honesty to take the first big step. My name is Erlynn Cabarles, LCSW and I have a Master’s in Social Work from SFSU. I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in the state of California since 2015. I have 20 plus years of experience in the mental health field and I believe that the first step of healing is self-discovery and the development of personal goals to overcome challenges. My intentions are to instill hope and inspiration and to empower you to be able to move on to a more fulfilling life. Remember that You are resilient and determined to change for the positivity. My purpose is to provide a safe space and non-judgmental environment. If you’re ready, I’ll be here to support you on your journey towards healing!

As a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, I work with adults (no couples) and children who feel overwhelmed, emotionally drained, or disconnected from themselves. You may be doing everything you can to keep going—showing up for work or school, caring for others, and managing daily life—while quietly carrying anxiety, sadness, anger, or deep exhaustion. Sometimes your reactions feel bigger than expected. Sometimes life just doesn’t feel like it used to. I specialize in trauma-informed care and understand that these experiences are not signs of weakness. They are often signs that your mind and body have been working hard to cope. I believe healing happens when you feel safe, understood, and supported at your own pace. In our work together, I offer a calm and steady presence. Therapy with me is not about pushing you to “just move on” or forcing change before you’re ready. It’s about slowing down, listening to what your mind and body are holding, and creating space for relief and clarity. My role is to walk alongside you as you regain a sense of stability and reconnect with the part of you that holds resilience, strength, and the capacity for joy—even if that feels far away right now.

Are you stuck in conflict-with your partner, your teenager, a family member, or even within yourself? Do you find yourself questioning your worth, overthinking your relationships, or feeling overwhelmed with anxiety? You don't have to figure it out alone. Therapy can help you understand the patterns that keep you stuck and build healthier ways of connecting with yourself and the people you care about. I help teens and adults build confidence, manage anxiety, strengthen relationships, and create meaningful, lasting change. I also help parents strengthen their connection with their teens while reducing conflict at home. My approach is relational and trauma-informed, integrating mindfulness, CBT, DBT, psychodynamic and narrative principles to support insight, healing, and meaningful change. A bit about me...I became licensed in the state of California in 2011. Prior to that, I received a M.A. in Counseling Psychology from John F. Kennedy University and a B.A. in Psychology with a minor in Women’s Studies from the University of California at Berkeley. I have worked in schools, non-profit agencies, and in private practice, serving diverse populations to include children, adolescents, adult individuals, families, and couples. I look forward to connecting with you. ** También hablo español. No dude en comunicarse conmigo si necesita apoyo. Espero poder conversar con usted pronto.

For as long as I can remember, I have been guided by a deep curiosity and an intuitive attunement to the inner life. Through the lens of the Enneagram Eight, softened and informed by the heart-centered wisdom of the Two, I have felt a persistent call toward creativity, advocacy, and soulful service. From an early age, I sensed a vocation to walk alongside others as they remember and embody their true nature. At twelve, I consciously answered this call as a Healer, and since then, my path has unfolded through continual inquiry, learning, and practice—expressed as an artist, a devoted companion, a counselor, and a kitchen herbalist. Each role is a living dialogue with all the parts of me, in service of integration, wholeness, and becoming.

Hello! I'm a Hmong-American therapist based in California with experience working with BIPOC and underserved communities of color. I also have experience working in Child Protective Services where I supported children and biological, foster, and adopted parents in the foster care system. I enjoy working with teens, young adults, and adults who may be struggling with depression, anxiety, relationships, or life transitions. My approach is empathetic and client centered. As needed, I also press and push for accountability to help clients work toward the change they desire.

I’m a licensed California psychotherapist offering a grounded, practical, and collaborative approach to healing. My work draws on honest dialogue, reflective listening, mindfulness-based cognitive therapy, breathwork, journaling, dream exploration, and narrative reflection. Together, we’ll uncover patterns, explore the choices shaping your story, and discover new ways forward with courage and compassion. My goal is to help you develop practical tools, deeper self-awareness, personal responsibility, and lasting independence. ( NOTE: I have a no show, late show and late cancel policy (see "Practice Details") which includes all clients including those who have insurers who do not cover Grow Therapy for those instances. In the case of a LATE show client will be responsible for pro-rated amount not covered by their insurer. 36hr advance notice is required to cancel or reschedule.)

Hi! My name is Esther and I am a LCSW in the state of California. I graduated with my MSW at California State University of Monterey Bay. I have been practicing therapy for 10 plus years. I specialize in trauma informed care and those with a severe mental illness. I support individuals find grace for themselves and harmony in their life by addressing burn out, confidence issues, anxiety, depression and other life factors.

You don’t have to carry this alone. I’m a California-licensed therapist who supports adolescents, young adults, women, and people from diverse cultural backgrounds through stress, relationship dynamics, family conflicts, and trauma recovery. Whether you’re juggling academic pressure, caregiving, career pivots, or the weight of old wounds, I offer a steady, nonjudgmental presence. My style is warm, collaborative, and culturally responsive—I honor the identities, histories, and values that shape who you are, and I approach our work with curiosity, humility, and respect.

I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) based in Los Angeles, California. I received my Master of Social Work from the University of Southern California (USC). I work with adolescent and adult clients statewide via telehealth. I have several years of experience with helping clients improve anxiety, depression, and overall stress symptoms that life and life transitions create. I am a therapist who is passionate about helping people heal, grow and discover their strengths.

I was born in NJ where I completed my education at Rutger's University and now live with my family in DE. I have my LCSW in DE, NJ, and CA and currently practice in these 3 states. I am an animal lover of all kinds and enjoy being outdoors as much as I can. In my free time, I enjoy traveling, hiking, exercising, and reading.

I’m warm, solution-focused, and unapologetically authentic. I’ve been told I’m pretty chill, so expect some laughs along the way. I work with children, adolescents, and adults navigating a range of life situations and transitions. My practice includes but is not limited to individuals who may be experiencing trauma, exploring identity, or struggling with confidence and motivation, which can show up in various ways such as feelings of overwhelm, stress, sadness, anger, or other intense emotions. Whatever it may be for you, know this, I am going to keep it 100 (honest) with you, and I won't co-sign on things you tell yourself that are not truths. What I am going to do is gently lift up the things you aren't saying, what you’re avoiding, and/or what may not be in your awareness yet. My intention is simple: to support you in navigating whatever is causing you pain, whatever is challenging you or whatever is presenting itself as a barrier. Why? Because, the only way out is to move through. Drawing from community defined, and evidence-based practices, I aim to empower clients to develop resilience, self-love, and meaningful strategies for personal transformation. My approach is collaborative, respectful, and tailored to your individual needs and strengths.

Are you struggling in living your best life? Do you feel ‘off’ and not sure why? Having difficulties in your interpersonal relationships at home/work? Is the past keeping you feeling stuck? I will help identify and explore barriers keeping you feel ‘stuck’ in life. We’ll work together in identifying what is keeping you from living an authentic and fulfilling life. I will work with you in developing healthy coping strategies and tools in order to enrich your everyday life and overall functioning. This can be with family, friends, or in whatever capacity you’re struggling. We can identify how anxiety and depressive symptomolgy presents. How you currently deal with interpersonal and behavioral issues and develop new healthy coping strategies.

Hey there, I'm Mersedeh, but feel free to call me Mary! Are you currently feeling a bit stuck, like life's lost its sparkle? Do you sometimes wonder if change is just a myth? Are you missing the thrill of those early relationship days when everything felt like an adventure? Or maybe you're on a quest to cultivate healthier connections, both with yourself and the people around you. And if you've got some not-so-great habits you'd like to change, we've all been there. Guess what? I'm here to lend a friendly ear and a warm heart. Let's chat and work on bringing some sunshine with a warm smile and a can-do attitude, back into your life! I'm here to help you tap into the wisdom of your own experiences, and together, we'll create a nurturing space for healing and growth. My goal is to empower you, helping you understand what might be holding you back and guiding you through it. We'll embark on this journey using an evidence-based approach tailored to the unique needs of your mind, body, and spirit, ultimately restoring balance in your life. I'm passionate about incorporating Psychoanalysis, mindfulness, and art techniques to foster a deeper and more loving connection with yourself. Taking the step to seek therapy is a courageous move, one that demonstrates your commitment to healing your emotional wounds. Be proud of yourself for prioritizing your well-being, and let's work together to achieve the positive changes you're seeking! 🌱😊

Hi, I’m James Gonzales, LMFT. I’m a licensed marriage and family therapist who works with individuals navigating anxiety, stress, trauma, and life transitions. I strive to create a safe, supportive, and nonjudgmental space where clients feel comfortable being open and honest. My approach is collaborative and grounded in evidence-based practices, focusing on building insight, strengthening coping skills, and helping clients create meaningful, lasting change in their lives.

I graduated from the Univerisity of Southern California with a Master’s in Social Work. I have eight years of clinical experience working with children, adolescents, adults, and families at the Los Angeles Unified School District and Child and Family Guidance Center, most recently in the Juvenile Justice program. I have provided clinical therapy in the outpatient and residential setting, treating trauma, anxiety, and depression. With passion, dedication, and a collaborative approach, therapy is a powerful tool that can improve the quality of life.

Welcome, I'm so glad you've found your way here! I specialize in supporting teens and young adults as they navigate life's challenges, such as anxiety, life transitions, and relationship dynamics. Together, we'll create a safe, non-judgmental space where you can explore and understand the aspects of yourself that may be causing internal friction. As your therapist, my goal is to guide you toward greater understanding, compassion, and self-acceptance. I believe in working together to identify and address the unique challenges that may be holding you back or keeping you stuck in unhelpful patterns.

Hello, My name is Tiffany Bell and I am a licensed marriage, family, and child therapist. I specialize in learning disabilities and neurodivergence (Autism, ADHD, etc.). I have over 21 years of experience working with this population. I love to help this population of people maximize their full potential through direct, fun, and practical ways of understanding their disorder, what will work and what does not, and how to effectively navigate through that. I also have experience in the education system and I understand how specialized education works. I take pride in not only helping those individuals navigate this system and advocate for themselves,

Hola and Welcome, my name is Jennifer Delgadillo a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, LMFT. I have been a bilingual therapist for the last 7 years. Throughout my career, I have gained an amplitude of experience working with young adults, children, and adolescents. I offer a safe, comfortable, and non-judgmental space to explore and process your current life challenges and develop effective strategies to allow you to continue growing during life changes.

Mr. Briceño is a therapist who values depth, presence, and intentionality in his work. He was drawn to this field through a desire to better understand himself and support his immediate family through difficult experiences, and that curiosity continues to guide how he practices today. His professional journey has included working with individuals across the lifespan and life circumstances from ages 4-106. This has shaped his respect for resilience and the complexity of human experience. Those experiences reinforced his belief that therapy is most effective when it is grounded in empathy, reflection, and genuine human connection. He approaches this work thoughtfully and with care. Is intentional about how he shows up with clients, prioritizing presence and understanding over labels or quick solutions. He values honest conversation, self-awareness, and creating spaces for people to explore their experiences in a way that feels grounded and respectful. At his core, therapy is about understanding—understanding ourselves, our patterns, and what matters most to us. Supporting that process, and witnessing growth that comes from clarity and insight, is what continues to motivate him in this work.

Hello! My name is Joey Ritkes (he/him) and I'm a Licensed Clinical Social Worker based in California. I received my Masters from San Jose State University and my PhD from Alliant International University. I primarily support the LGBTQ+ Community, particularly children and adolescents. Although I do work with clients from various backgrounds and identities. I have experience working with individuals, couples, and families.

Meet Tara Zandi, LICSW – a compassionate and highly skilled therapist with over a decade of experience supporting adults, children, and families. Tara holds a Master’s in Clinical Psychology and an MSW in Clinical Social Work, blending deep academic knowledge with practical expertise. She’s trained in a powerful range of evidence-based approaches, including CBT, DBT, PCIT, EMDR, and even yoga for children—offering a holistic and personalized approach to healing. Whether working through depression, anxiety, or behavioral health challenges, Tara meets her clients with empathy, insight, and culturally sensitive care. Fluent in English and Farsi, Tara creates a welcoming space for diverse communities to feel seen, heard, and supported on their journey toward wellness.

I am a Christian-informed therapist licensed in multiple States. With a background in clinical social work and a desire to see the building up of the body of Christ, I am passionate about supporting and encouraging my brothers and sisters as they seek to navigate the difficulties of life and develop resilience that can lead to personal healing and spiritual growth. My areas of expertise include managing stress, anxiety, depression, trauma, faith formation, identity and purpose, peer relationships, transitional challenges, conflict resolution, forgiveness, etc.