Self Esteem Therapists in Minnesota

Finding a therapist who specializes in self-esteem can be essential for building confidence, fostering self-acceptance, and improving personal resilience. With 32 verified therapists in Minnesota who focus on self-esteem support, you can filter by therapeutic approaches such as cognitive behavioral therapy, supportive counseling, and solution-focused therapy to address self-worth, negative self-talk, and personal growth. Each Grow Therapy-verified therapist is currently accepting new clients and has upcoming availability, providing timely access to the support needed to cultivate a stronger, more positive self-image.

Craig Rice

Craig Rice, LPCC - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$90/session
LPCC
7 years of experience
Virtual
I am well versed in several counseling techniques and have a compassionate approachable demeanor. My counseling experience is above par and I am also organized with an attention to detail. Clients warm up to me quickly and I enjoy helping them reach goals and learn new thinking patterns to view life in a more positive manner. My therapeutic style incorporates expert listening, positive feedback, direct guidance, and creating an environment where you will feel comfortable to discuss your personal thoughts and feelings.

Craig Polsfuss

Craig Polsfuss, LP - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$200/session
LP
40 years of experience
Virtual
I share simple, insightful principles with you that expedite your finding the answers you seek and making the changes you want - recovering your feelings of wellbeing and confidence. I am publishing a four-book series that outlines and describes this simple step-by-step system (recommended but not required). Our sessions are relaxed and conversational. The process is less on expressing and examining your problems, although I take time to understand them at the beginning. The process is more about cultivating the ability to listen deeply to yourself and your inner wisdom, wellbeing and power. It will guide you to your answers and back to how feels and works best for you. Once understood, this is a free-flowing, easy and enjoyable experience.

Clifton Burns Jr

(he/him)

Clifton Burns Jr, LPCC - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$85/session
LPCC
15 years of experience
Virtual
My first career includes 17 years of retail management. I worked in multiple divisions, environments, and roles within the retail management industry. Most of my experiences were in the Big-Box retail environments or within the corporate office environment, so I understand the expectations and stressors of P&L management, marketing, staff performance/recruitment/training & development, shrinkage, O.S.H.A. compliance, and merchandising. I transitioned from the retail management industry to the human services industry in March of 2010 after receiving my master’s degree in Human Services with a specialty in Mental Health Counseling. This information is pertinent for adults who need assistance to cope with work-life balance, corporate industry standards, stressful work environments, conflict management with co-workers, and work performance due to compassion fatigue or inappropriate time management.

Nikki Wieberdink

Nikki Wieberdink , LPCC - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$175/session
LPCC
8 years of experience
Virtual
Hi! I know how important it is to feel better as quickly as possible and the desire to get back to enjoying life. Let's work together to get you there! I am a Licensed professional clinical counselor (LPCC) and a Licensed Practical Nurse(LPN) based in Central MN. I graduated from Saint Cloud State University in 2008 and have been working in mental health for over 20 years. I have been licensed as an LPCC for 8 of those years and licensed as a nurse for over 20 years. I have extensive work in crisis intervention and have worked with people experiencing all kinds of symptoms that are interfering with their lives.

Cynthia White

(they/them)

Cynthia White, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$100/session
LICSW
30 years of experience
Virtual
I am a Licensed Independent Clinical Social worker and live in Minnesota, where I have been in private practice for almost 25 years. I really love my work with clients. I especially enjoy helping clients move from feeling stuck in their lives to feeling empowered. My goal is to help clients live the life they most desire and I have helped thousands of clients to do this.

Dr. Glenda Hayden

Dr. Glenda Hayden, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy

Frequently rebooked

$175/session
LICSW
20 years of experience
Virtual
Thank you for taking steps toward improving your well-being! As a Licensed Clinical Social Worker specializing in Clinical Child and Family Psychology, Crisis Management, and Christian Counseling, I bring over 20 years of experience helping adults, teens, and families cope with anxiety, depression, caregiver stress, and life transitions such as death, divorce, and job loss. My goal is to foster a brave space where all thoughts and feelings are valued, allowing clients to embrace vulnerability. Together, we will work on creating meaningful personal goals to support your overall well-being. I look forward to supporting you on your healing journey.

Bridget McConnell

(she/her)

Bridget McConnell, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$125/session
LICSW
21 years of experience
Virtual
Hi, I've been a Clinical Social Worker for over 20 years. I have worked with a wide variety of ages, including children, teens, young adults, and adults. In addition, I have worked with many families and am well-versed in parenting support. I have done clinic-based work, home-based work, and currently, on a part-time basis, I provide equine-assistsed therapy. I truly believe that all people have the answers to their own problems and consider my clients the "experts" on themselves. Supporting people to take charge of their lives and reach their potential is extremely important to me. I complete thorough assessments and work hard to streamline diagnoses, as many people have too many "labels" attached to them. I am also certified in Accelerated Resolution Therapy, which is an eye movement therapy, similar to EMDR, that helps people suffering from trauma, as well as anxiety and depression. My hobbies include fishing, walking, gardening, horseback riding, and traveling. I own an English Bulldog, an Olde English Bulldogge, a 110 pound American Staffordshire Terrier, and two horses.

Christine Dawson

Christine Dawson, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$75/session
LICSW
32 years of experience
Virtual
I am a licensed Clinical Social Worker licensed in 7 states (MN, UT, NE, ID, WA, WY, CO,) and the ability to see clients in 7 states thru the use of telehealth. I have been practicing as a Social Worker for 11 years and previously practiced as Addiction Counselor for 20 years. I have 4 years of trauma practice with First Responders and Veteran and am retired military. I have been trained in and practice ART (accelerated Resolution Therapy) for 6 years.

La Gr

(She/He)

La Gr, LPCC - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$125/session
LPCC
7 years of experience
Virtual
La is invested in ongoing work to decolonize therapeutic practices in a relational, collaborative space where clients hold and cultivate personal power, receive support, and accountability, gain insight, and discover authentic living. La uses an integrated approach that includes relational and somatic (body-based) therapies that center Black, Indigenous and other POC, LGBTQIA2S+ [1] Relationship Therapy: Two or more gathered with a therapist to work on communication, connection, and relationship-- Traditional dyads, polycules, families, friends, or frienemies. [2] Neurodiversity Affirming Care: Learn how to thrive without trying to "rewrite your brain" or "cure" neurotype. Turns out, you're not actually broken. [3] Personal Development: Develop confidence and certainty. Deconstruct harm. Rewrite your story. [4] Queer, Trans & Gender Expansive Care: Whether you are exploring your identity or just need to exist without having to answer a bunch of questions, we got you covered. [5] Consensual Kink Affirming Sex and Relationship Care: A community of consent, constant communication, negotiation, and aftercare. [6] Therapy for Therapists: You need a space. There is one here for you. About 1/3 of my clients are therapists.

Jennifer Piede

Jennifer Piede, LPCC - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$150/session
LPCC
18 years of experience
Virtual
Whatever obstacles and struggles someone may be going through in life, I consider it a privilege to help them cope. I understand that the clients I see are entrusting me to give them the right resources to guide them down a new path, with a new perspective, so they can achieve their own goals. With a healthy balance of listening, guiding, and even learning, I take pride in using my own experience and resources to help people really start off on the right foot on that path. Whether you, or someone you know struggles with something like anxiety, or simply wants a different outlook on their life, it’s something to work through together, and by setting up a consultation, we can get started.

Kathryn Stemwedel

(she/her)

Kathryn Stemwedel, LPCC - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$145/session
LPCC
14 years of experience
Virtual
I believe in fostering a relationship of mutual respect and growth in each person and tailoring treatment modalities to fit personality, goals, and symptom reduction/management. I have over 10 years experience working with the seriously and persistantly mentally ill population, those experiencing homelessness, struggling with chemical dependence and have worked within the child welfare system to support children and their families. I have understanding of foster care and adoption challenges and have experience navigating the family court system. I have expertise in working with victims of child abuse and neglect and the trauma this creates. I have ten years experience as an art teacher, and 14 years of mental health counseling experience with individuals, families, and couples. I enjoy working with a variety of individuals and as a creative thinker, I offer creative solutions and problem solving to clients. My areas of expertise include ADHD, Autism, Anxiety, Depression, OCD, Eating Disorders, Grief, Trauma, Skin picking disorder, PTSD, Women's issues, Marriage/couples issues, Borderline Personality Disorder, Schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder. relationships and parenting. I am committed to inspiring hope for positive change and healing in my clients untilizing a variety of evidence based modalities including positive, strengths based psychology. I challenge models that define humans by their diagnosis or adverse experiences as a compassionate person centered therapist.

Clover McKinney

(she/her)

Clover McKinney, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$100/session
LICSW
8 years of experience
Virtual
Hello! My name is Clover and I am a licensed clinical therapist and addiction specialist in the state of North Carolina. I look forward to the opportunity of learning and working together as part of our therapeutic process. I enjoy working with folks who are gender diverse and members of the LGBTQIA+ community who experience unique stressors and conflicts with their day-to-day lives. I also love working with folks who struggle with substance use either in addition to other life stressors or on its own especially in the context of substance use disorders being highly stigmatized. I focus on substance use treatment approaches with a functionality mindset to work on setting reasonable goals and expectations during the clinical process. I started my clinical work with addiction and grew as a therapist and person to see people from a whole-person perspective. Our difficulties, conflicts, our stressors do not define us for who we are and when they prevent or delay us from becoming our authentic selves is where the therapeutic process blossoms. I believe everybody is always in a constant process of growing into our best selves and I hope to have the opportunity to work with you along this process too.

Alissa Sladek

Alissa Sladek, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$125/session
LICSW
9 years of experience
Virtual
Hi, I am Alissa. Have you ever felt trapped in your own brain? Feel like your emotions are running away with your life? I help individuals to learn how to control their thoughts and emotions so they are able to enrich their lives with relationships, stress, and emotional balance. I am a LCSW who specializes in anxiety, Borderline, depression, relationship issues, and emotional distress among other things. I love to work with the strength base module and a Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) model. I believe that therapy is a relationship and that trust is important in order for you to get what you want and need out of therapy.

September Prushek

(she/her)

September Prushek, LPCC - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$175/session
LPCC
7 years of experience
Virtual
Hi there! I'm September and I am a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor (LPCC) practicing in Minnesota. I graduated with my master's degree in clinical mental health counseling from Saint Cloud State University in 2021 and have practiced in a variety of settings including my current private practice, community mental health, DBT intensive outpatient programming, corrections through the DOC, crisis, and foster care settings. I enjoy working with clients experiencing trauma, self-esteem concerns, codependency, relationship concerns, and those who may be navigating narcissistic abuse.

Tobias Wilde

(he/him)

Tobias Wilde, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$120/session
LICSW
13 years of experience
Virtual
My name is Tobias (He/Him/His). I am a Licensed Independent Clinical Social Worker (LCSW/LICSW) with 13 years of professional work experience. I recieved my Masters from the University of Utah. I have many roles in life, in addition to being a therapist, I was born in the United States. I am a son and a brother in a blended family. I am also an advocate, a father, a friend, a mentor, a student of life, as well as a teacher by heart. I am also a Child of a Deaf Adult (CODA) and fluent in American Sign Language (ASL).

Dr. Rosella Collins-Puoch

(she/her)

Dr. Rosella Collins-Puoch, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$120/session
LICSW
13 years of experience
Virtual
Hello, my name is Dr. Collins. Are you experiencing emotional, psychological, spiritual, or other challenges that are interfering with your ability to live your best life? My goal is to create a safe and compassionate space where you can explore your thoughts, emotions, and experiences. In our sessions, I prioritize building a trusting and collaborative therapeutic relationship. I believe in the power of empathy, active listening, and genuine understanding. Together, we will navigate the challenges you face and uncover your inner strengths and resilience.

Portia Harmon

(she/her)

Portia Harmon, LPCC - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$120/session
LPCC
6 years of experience
Virtual
Hello! I am a Licensed Mental Health Counselor (LMHC) in Florida. I have several years of experience providing therapy services. I have experience in helping clients with stress and anxiety, coping with grief and loss, motivation, self esteem, and confidence, & depression. I believe that you are the expert of your story and that you have many strengths that will assist you in overcoming things that challenge you. Taking the first step to sign up for therapy can take courage and I am proud of you for getting started!

Amanda Knapper

(she/her)

Amanda Knapper, LPCC - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$160/session
LPCC
5 years of experience
Virtual
Hi there, I am glad you are here. My name is Amanda and I am a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor (LPCC) based in Minnesota. I received my degree at North Dakota State University (NDSU) and have been in the mental health field for 5 years. Due to my experience in a hospital setting and community mental health center, I have comfortability working with individuals from all walks of life, whether you are struggling with depression, anxiety, marital stress or anything interfering with your quality of life. I am here to meet you where you are at and work alongside you.

Angie Henke

Angie Henke, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$100/session
LICSW
10 years of experience
Virtual
Hello, my name is Angie, and I would be honored to hear your story and experiences. As a social worker, I have a strong ability to connect with people and quickly build rapport. I have been working in the field for 10 years and have been a LICSW since 2021. I believe it's important to engage actively in therapy and put in the necessary effort to make changes that will help you reach your goals. I often use humor and seem to have the ability to make people feel like they are talking to a friend...albeit a friend that is very honest, sometimes sarcastic, can challenge you, accept you, fight for you, and sometimes make you mad. Thankfully, it's all part of the process of making sustainable changes! I attended training to work specifically with law enforcement, veterans, and other first responders. I was an embedded social worker in a MN police department for 3 years. I utilize different therapeutic modalities depending on your individual needs. Some examples include: Solution-Focused Therapy, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Trauma Focused Therapy, and Motivational Interviewing. I pride myself in delivering non-judgmental, empathetic, individualized services to ensure the therapy experience is created for you.

Jennifer Ostergaard

Jennifer Ostergaard, LP - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$225/session
LP
20 years of experience
Virtual
Dr. Ostergaard is an experienced licensed practitioner with specialized training in neuropsychology. She has been a licensed practitioner since 2006 and completed her fellowship training in pediatric neuropsychology through the University of Minnesota Medical School’s Division of Pediatric Clinical Neuroscience. Her research and clinical interests have focused on traumatic brain injury (TBI) assessment and recovery. Dr. Ostergaard looks forward to collaborating with you to accomplish your goals by creating positive and sustainable changes, ultimately enhancing your quality of life.

Rebecca Prust

(she/her)

Rebecca Prust, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$150/session
LICSW
20 years of experience
Virtual
Hello! I'm a LICSW with over 20 years of experience working in mental health. I earned my degree from the University of Minnesota. My approach is empathetic, non judgemental and solution focused. I have worked with people both long term and short term depending on needs. You know yourself best, my job is to help you make your life the best.

Sarah Berger

(she/her)

Sarah Berger, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$135/session
LICSW
23 years of experience
Virtual
Hello! I am licensed clinical social worker, LICSW who is a dedicated and compassionate therapist committed to supporting you on your path to emotional well-being and personal growth. I have had the privilege of guiding individuals through their various challenges for over 23+ years, helping each of them discover their inner strength and resilience to manage symptoms or overcome life transitions and difficulties. I have worked with people of all ages ranging from children to the elderly, with more focus devoted to those in their late teens to those in mid-life stages.

Joy Watkins

Joy Watkins, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$180/session
LICSW
22 years of experience
Virtual
Healing and restoring individuals and couples as a Therapist and Consultant specializing in Mental Health and Substance Abuse for 20+ years. I have worked with Adults, Adolescents, Teens and Young Adults extensively. I specialize in CBT Therapy, CBT Trauma Focused Therapy, Solution Focused Therapy, Client Centered Therapy, Motivational Interviewing, Domestic Violence and Strengths Based Therapy. For individuals or couple experiencing depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, fears or any other Mental Health issues I can assist you with combating these issues that are affecting your daily life using a strengths base approach.

Rana Nelson

(she/her)

Rana Nelson, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$200/session
LICSW
13 years of experience
Virtual
In-person
102 S Main St, ...
Hello! My name is Rana and I have over a decade of working with children (ages 6+) and adults. I specialize in anxiety, depression, life adjustments, ADHD, parent training, and trauma. I enjoy getting to know each client on an individual level. I aim to create a warm, compassionate, and safe space for healing. Some treatment approaches I offer are Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, and Accelerated Resolution Therapy.

Diane Recob

(she/her)

Diane Recob, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$125/session
LICSW
13 years of experience
Virtual
Hello, I am a licensed clinical social worker who specializes in treating simple and complex trauma, neurodivergent traits (ADHD, ASD, sensitivities) and along with general mental health issues such as anxiety and depression. I draw on a number of tools to identify and resolve the underlying events and experiences that distressing and disruptive including CBT, DBT, IFS, and EMDR and Somatic Experiencing. My belief is that you deserve to work with someone who truly understands your experience, takes action on your healing, not passively listening to you. I help my clients heal and create the change you are seeking. It is most important that you feel you are being seen and heard in a secure, safe place with no judgement. I love working with people who want to make meaningful changes in their lives so they can find the happiness they deserve!

Jenny Schwieger

(she/her)

Jenny Schwieger, LPCC - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$90/session
LPCC
18 years of experience
Virtual
Hello! I am a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor and have been practicing in Minnesota for 18 years. My hope as a therapist is to build relationships and work collaboratively with individuals to address their specific goals. My intention is to bring an accepting, inviting and non-judgemental presence into each session, with encouragement in helping you navigate life’s challenges and assisting you in developing strategies and skills to make positive changes in your life. In addition to working as a therapist, I also have 25 years experience working as a school counselor.

Dalie Dominguez

Dalie Dominguez, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$120/session
LICSW
9 years of experience
Virtual
I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with a passion for serving diverse communities. Hailing from the vibrant culture of Puerto Rico and rooted in the bustling landscape of NY/NJ, I proudly offer bilingual services, fluent in both English and Spanish, catering to the needs of the Spanish-speaking community. Beyond my professional role, I identify as a mother, Christian, woman of color, avid gardener, makeup enthusiast, and devoted animal lover. With extensive training in modalities such as EMDR, DBT, CBT, TF-CBT, Imago, Psychodynamic Theory, and Attachment Theory, I bring a comprehensive toolkit to my practice, ensuring tailored therapeutic options for each individual I work with. From trauma recovery to relationship dynamics, I am dedicated to empowering my clients on their journey towards healing and personal growth.

Rebekah Taylor

Rebekah Taylor, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$165/session
LICSW
15 years of experience
Virtual
I'm a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with a Master's Degree in Social Work. I have been practicing in social work since undergrad back in 2007. I mostly work with adults in life transitions, difficult stressors (work, family or medical), chronic health conditions and pain. I became a mental health provider because I am passionate about helping people regain their life back, having hope for better days and overcoming difficult situations and traumatic events. Life can have ups and downs and it's okay to ask for help and to say “this is hard”.

Dr. FLORENCE NJOYI

Dr. FLORENCE NJOYI, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$100/session
LICSW
15 years of experience
Virtual
Hello! I am a multicultural clinician with fifteen years of experience, licensed as a Licensed Independent Clinical Social Worker (LICSW). I hold a Master’s degree from the University of St. Thomas in Saint Paul, Minnesota, and a Doctor of Behavioral Health from Arizona State University. My primary focus is on delivering clinical support to adults encountering behavioral health challenges, with the aim of improving their condition management. I am dedicated to integrating diverse cultural perspectives into my practice, respecting each individual's background. I create a safe environment for clients to explore their thoughts and feelings. Using evidence-based approaches, I work collaboratively to develop personalized strategies that enhance resilience and well-being. Also, I prioritize ongoing professional development to stay updated on advancements in behavioral health for effective care.

Tiffany Lopez

(she/her)

Tiffany Lopez, LICSW - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$100/session
LICSW
5 years of experience
Virtual
Hello! I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, licensed to practice in various states. I have experience working in a variety of mental health settings and have found my passion working as an outpatient therapist. In our work together you can expect to be met with a therapeutic alliance that promotes safety, empathy, compassion, and value, as a human being.

Dr. Iesha McLeod

(she/her)

Dr. Iesha McLeod, LP - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$200/session
LP
8 years of experience
Virtual
Hi! I am a Licensed Psychologist (LP) based in Minnesota. I received my Doctorate from Albizu University-Miami and have been practicing for 8 years. I have experience working with individuals struggling with trauma, mood disorders, anger management, impulse control, interpersonal concerns, addiction, neurodiversity, personality disorders, and those involved in the criminal justice system. My goal is to guide individuals into a greater awareness and deeper healing, so that they can make the best decisions for themselves.

Vanessa Glatt

(she/her)

Vanessa Glatt, LPCC - Minnesota Therapist at Grow Therapy
$150/session
LPCC
9 years of experience
Virtual
I'm a licensed therapist specializing in anxiety, depression, ADHD, and life transitions. My approach focuses on developing awareness of how our thoughts, emotions and behaviors are connected, fostering resilience, and empowering clients to work through their challenges. I enjoy creating a non-judgmental and affirming space for adults with short-term or long-standing mental health and emotional distress. Feelings of anxiety and the need for isolation can be internal cues to request reconnection to what makes our lives meaningful. Ideally, enjoying the moment, knowing how to soothe overwhelming feelings, and engaging our sparkling personalities helps us feel alive. My clients enjoy my approach of exploring practical strategies by using guiding questions. Exploring thoughts and emotional pain benefits from curiosity and compassion. I am also trained in EMDR, which can be supportive in reframing negative belief systems and releasing trauma.

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Frequently asked questions

Why filter by Minnesota rather than a city like Minneapolis?

When looking for online therapy, you can see anyone that is credentialed in the state. We want you to find the best fit, therefore, Grow Therapy shows available therapists across Minnesota from Saint Paul to Rochester! If you’d rather see someone in-person, you can change the filter from virtual and find a therapist near you in Minnesota.

Will my therapist take insurance?

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How does the Specialty Filter work? Can I find a therapist that focuses on Self Esteem?

The specialty filter is optional. You don’t need to check any boxes to see a provider. However, fit is very important when selecting an online therapist. If you have knowledge or experience to recognize what specialties you may need. For example, your selected specialty, Self Esteem, is filtering therapists in Minnesota that work with patients with similar concerns.

Why use Gender, Age, and Identities filters?

Finding a provider with a similar life experience can be beneficial because it can be easier to establish rapport and potentially be understood quicker and clearer.

What to expect during your first session?

Your first therapy session is for you and your therapist to meet each other and to ask any questions that you have about the counseling process. This is where you can expect your therapist to do the same as they will ask questions to gain insight into your specific situation. In this first session the therapist is doing their part to gather as much information so they can better assess if they are able to meet your therapeutic needs.

Depending upon your provider's specialty, you may also discuss the methods the therapist will use. For additional information on therapy methods, please visit the Grow Therapy Help Center. Some people feel nervous before their first appointment, and that is totally normal! Coming prepared with a list of questions for your therapist may help. Remember, you're taking a brave step by seeking therapy, and it is okay to be nervous as you try something new.