I am a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor. I use a person centered approach tailored to the individual to help individuals find peace within themselves and joy in their emotions. I have a background working with people experiencing psychosis, PTSD, depression, anxiety, and personality disorders. I believe that there is no such thing as “normal” as we all have our own path to walk. I am passionate about about helping others meet the highest version of themselves and grow into that version. I believe that a person is a whole creature - mind, body, and spirit, and all of that must be nurtured.

Hello my name is Ojuky and I am Licensed Clinical Social Worker in California. As your therapist I’m here to walk alongside you. Together, we’ll explore what you need, identify what’s not working, and create a path that feels right for you. Seeking therapy can feel intimidating, but taking this step shows your courage and commitment to becoming the best version of yourself. My approach looks at the whole person—we’ll consider every aspect of your life and well-being. I also love weaving your interests and hobbies into our sessions, whether that’s art, movement, or other activities that bring you joy. This is a space where you can feel safe, supported, and free to be vulnerable. My goal is to help you heal, grow, and overcome the challenges standing in your way—so you can step more fully into who you are meant to be.

Hi! I'm a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) based in California. I received my Master's degree from California State University, Fresno, and my Doctorate from Walden University in Minnesota. With 18 years of experience in the field, I specialize in helping individuals navigate their emotional and relational challenges to lead more fulfilling lives. My approach is compassionate and collaborative, focusing on empowering my clients with the tools they need to achieve their personal and interpersonal goals.

I work with adults and adolescents who feel overwhelmed, stuck, or worn down by anxiety, depression, life changes, or relationship stress. My approach is compassionate, honest, and collaborative—blending practical tools with real connection. Therapy with me is a space where you don’t have to hold everything together. We move through what you’re carrying at your pace, focusing on building clarity, resilience, and a stronger sense of self so you can feel more grounded and supported in your everyday life.

I have experience working with children, families, and individuals as a social worker since 2003, and as a licensed clinical social worker since 2017. Prior to training as a therapist I worked as an advocate for children, youth, and families in various community based non-profits. Witnessing families succeed as I helped ease their burdens led me to the path of clinical social work! I consider it a privilege to be invited and entrusted with the task of walking alongside you during a challenging moment in your life. Seeing you grow and succeed is one of the best rewards I could ask for.

I am honored to be on this journey with you in therapy. I am a therapist who believes that healing begins with feeling seen, safe, and understood. My approach is gentle, compassionate, and grounded in curiosity--never judgment. I create a space where you can slow down, breathe, and explore what's been heavy at your own pace. Whether you're navigating past trauma, burnout, or a season of change, my goal is to help you reconnect with your sense of self and feel more at peace within. In our work together, you'll find warmth, understanding, and a space that honors your story.

My name is Patty and I am a native Angeleno. I am a Bilingual Licensed Clinical Social Worker. I have been a practicing clinician for the past 13 years and have been trained in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Trauma Focused CBT, Seeking Safety and Structural Family Therapy. I have worked with clients from the ages of 10-71. What you can expect of me as your therapist is that our rapport and trust comes first. You won't want to talk to me if you don't feel safe or if you feel judged. Your wellness is my highest priority.

Hi, my name if Kim Gunderson, and I have worked as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist for 23 years. I have worked with middle school kids in a school setting, supervised incoming trainees at Cal State, University Fullerton, and have concurrently worked in private practice with a variety of individuals, couples, and families. You are the expert of you! I work collaboratively and aid in helping you identify underlying themes that may be adding to your distress.

Hello. I am an LMFT and I have been practicing for over 30 years. I specialize in life transitions; how to look back to move forward, how to become unstuck and unafraid, how to find strength and courage to face whatever comes next. I meet and honor each client where they are without having an agenda of where they should go. That is up to them and hopefully, through our work together, they will dicover their path.

My journey as a counselor began working with the Veterans Hospital in an outpatient clinic working with veterans with Depression, Anxiety, PTSD, survivors of sexual assault and educating the family. I also have experience working with those who have experienced Intimate Partner Violence, Post Partum-Depression and family members who are caregivers. I am a mother, a caregiver and grandmother who plays an active role in grandkid’s life.

My name is Sarah, and I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with five years of licensure and eight years of experience providing therapy. I hold a master’s degree in counseling and have worked with adolescents, adults, children, and families around concerns such as trauma, grief, and life stressors. My goal is to support clients in their healing in a way that fits them, because no two people are the same. I take pride in building strong rapport and trust, and in creating a space where clients feel safe, understood, and supported.

As a Latinx, Spanish-speaking therapist, I bring a holistic and culturally responsive approach to my work. Growing up in an underserved community in Southern California, I saw firsthand how mental health was rarely discussed in many households—a reality that still exists today. This experience drives my commitment to breaking the stigma around mental health and creating safe, affirming spaces for individuals navigating depression, anxiety, multicultural and immigration-related issues, parenting challenges, and life and work stressors

I'm Sheldon like the TV show! (Big Bang Theory). I help analytical high-achieving adults who feel stuck in patterns of anxiety and depression untangle their inner world and reconnect with their deeper self-using insight-driven therapy, dream exploration, and a creative lens that helps them uncover what's been buried beneath the surface. Do you often say, "I'm successful on the outside but exhausted and anxious inside," "overthinking everything, but still feeling stuck," or being in a "constant sense of restlessness or dissatisfaction," or being a person who "struggles to access or name emotions clearly." I help clients have greater awareness and emotional clarity and begin to feel grounded, self-trusting and more internally connected. I hope to reduce anxiety and depression symptoms through deeper insight and ability to recognize and break unconscious patterns. I help clients discover meaning through creative exploration, and dream work. I want clients to increase their confidence in navigating relationships and decisions and moving from analysis paralysis to self-acceptance and expression. My areas of expertise are in Depression, Anxiety, Chronic Mental Illness, Risk Assessment, Trauma, PTSD and Substance Abuse Disorders.

Hello! I am a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist (LMFT) based in sunny southern California, living with my partner, of many years, John, and our three cats, three dogs, and tortoise, who by the way, is currently hibernating...and don't we all wish we could do that at times? I have many years of experience working with individuals, and with a varied range of issues including anxiety, depression, low self-esteem and relationship challenges. I have worked in a variety of clinical settings with many ethnic populations. My style is down-to-earth, relatable, at times, direct, and always with a touch of humor. I love what I do and consider it an honor to help you resolve whatever it might be that is holding you back. I look forward to working with you! By the way, a former client recently said: "I am so grateful to have worked with you, you are truly gifted, and I have learned so much!"

When people are challenged with changes that affect the ability to manage stressors, there comes a time for positive change and support. I am passionate about focusing on the healing process, whether it involves the challenges of exploring maladaptive behaviors or the triggers of trauma. I help my clients to find healthy coping mechanisms and self-autonomy which will lead to positive perceptions. This, in turn, creates personal identification and self-worth, thus creating healthy relationships. There is not one single approach for each individual, so I have trained in different modalities.

Reaching out for help can be a very vulnerable experience, but also a great attribute of strength and resilience. I work with individuals who have experienced trauma in their life. Whether it's from childhood neglect, sexual assault, natural disaster, sudden death or other life circumstances. Trauma often creates patterns and loops that extend into many areas of a person's life, and can be challenging and painful to navigate. Sometimes the way people survive their trauma brings them more pain, adds to the chaos, and reinforces negative beliefs that perpetuate the cycle. I work to empower clients to understand and alter unhealthy cycles to strengthen and better their lives. I am fluent in ASL American Sign Language and have worked with Deaf clients leaving domestic violence in both a shelter and outpatient therapy services. I have spent 2 years in correctional settings working with severely mentally ill patients and supporting their family members navigating having children with mental illness. I have also spent 2 years working with foster youth and foster parents in providing support to their placements, promoting healing and preserving relationships. Note that online scheduling is limited. Broader scheduling options will be available to regularly scheduling clients. Please also note that I do not provide opinions about disability or fitness to return to work or other activities for clients who are not well-established at the time that the request for such opinion is made.

Hello, My name is Alex Haydon. I am a Licensed Therapist, and I'm thrilled that you are reaching out for help and support! I have been licenced for over 13 years, but have been providing therapy since approximately 2007 when I began my practicum, and internships. I have worked with a vast amount of clientele ranging from simple Adjustment Disorders to Major Depressive Disorder, Severe, to Bi Polar I and II. I also have quite a bit of experience working with Psychotic Disorders, such as Schizophrenia, Schizoaffective Disorder, and Mood Disorders with Psychotic Features. I have also worked with addictive behaviors, such as Alcohol and other drugs, Gambling, Sex and Pornography addiction, etc.

Hello, I’m a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in California. I’m a California native who graduated from the University of Southern California in 2019 with a Masters in Social Work degree and have been working in the mental health field for 7 years. My passion is for normalizing mental health in order to reduce the stigma often associated with it. We need to get comfortable talking about our mental health.

I am shaped by lived experience, cultural humility, and a deep respect for the therapy relationship. I help clients explore patterns, meaning, and emotional experiences in a safe, collaborative space. I believe healing happens when people feel understood, empowered, and free to grow at their own pace. I see therapy as a collaborative process—one that honors resilience, complexity, and the client’s innate capacity for healing.

My name is pronounced ahn-KEE-tha. I’m a queer, 1.5 generation Indian American cis woman who has spent many years actively engaged with my own inner work, partly out of necessity, and partly because it genuinely enlivens me. While our struggles are unique, I believe my lived experience along with over 15 years of clinical experience helps me accompany my clients with humility, steadiness, and deep care.

As an experienced Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor, I enjoy working with youth, adolescents, young adults, couples and Families. Throughout my experience, I have successfully worked with individuals, couples and families to gain insight and understanding regarding unhealthy/dysfunctional behavioral life patterns, processing trauma, navigating depression, anxiety and OCD behaviors and helping clients to overcome their struggles and better manage their responses to life stressors. I believe in a holistic approach to mental health, addressing mind & body. As a dedicated therapist, I specialize in a variety of evidence-based techniques, including Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), mindfulness, strengths-based therapy & psychotherapy, to help clients overcome negative thought patterns and behaviors. I want to provide clients with the tools they need for growth, as well as educating them on important concepts like trauma and emotional regulation and long-term healing. I am here to provide a safe, empathetic space where healing and growth can begin. To ensure we’re a good fit, I offer a complimentary 15-minute consultation.

Hello, my name is Carol Metcalf-Roth, LMFT, and I have been working with clients for 21 years as a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist. My career history includes progressive experience as a Therapist, Director of Social Services, and Clinical Supervisor, working in agency services, hospitals and private practice. I am also a licensed Military Family Life Counselor with previous counseling to current and former military and their families. I have many successfully treated clients. I do accept private paying clients if you do not have insurance. I require a credit card on file for non-insurance clients.

Hello, I’m a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) and Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor (LPCC) who is passionate about supporting individuals and families through life’s challenges. I have experience working with people of many ages and backgrounds in a variety of clinical settings. I am fluent in both English and Spanish and strive to create a warm, welcoming space where clients feel safe to be themselves and openly share their experiences. I believe in meeting clients where they are and building a genuine connection that allows for trust, growth, and healing. I have worked with concerns such as depression, anxiety, and trauma, and I feel honored to walk alongside my clients as they navigate difficult moments and discover their strength and resilience.

Hello, I am Guadalupe T. Rios, LCSW, licensed in California with professional work experience of 25 years. I have experience in helping clients in coping with childhood/adult trauma, grief and loss, intimate partner violence, military trauma, addictions, racism and work related stress. I work with my clients to create an open and safe environment where thoughts and feelings can be shared without fear of judgement. Taking the first step in seeking a more fulfilling and happier life takes courage. I welcome the opportunity to support you in this journey.

Hello, My name is Pavly Abdelmalek and I am a licensed psychotherapist (LMFT). I enjoy using a variety of different approaches to therapy and I will tailor them according your needs. My focus areas of practice will always start with providing a comfortable non-judgmental environment for you accompanied with the highest level of empathy throughout the therapeutic process. I am excited to know your story.

Maxine L. Kibble LMFT, MA, PsyD Candidate I am a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in California, Connecticut, and Utah. I have a Bachelor of Science in Education and Dance Therapy from New York University. I have two master's degrees: one in marriage and family counseling from the University of Phoenix and a second master's in clinical psychology from Alliant International University, California School of Professional Psychology. I am enrolled in the PsyD doctoral program at California Southern University and am scheduled to graduate in 05/2025. I have 23 years of experience as an educator, counselor, career counselor, and researcher in psychology. As a licensed MFT therapist, my expertise is in the areas of substance abuse, prison populations, AB109s (felons)/290s (sex offenders), anger management, domestic violence, career counseling, and parenting supervision. In addition to individual, couples, and family counseling, I have experience with specific populations, such as transgender and LGBTQ, with a particular cultural emphasis on identity formation. I have worked closely with psychiatrists regarding members who require medication management and assessments, diagnosing and creating for those individuals, couples, and family's treatment plans counseling services. My clientele ranges from 6 to 75 years of age, and my therapeutic approach is Cognitive Behavioral, Solution-Focused, Narrative therapy, and Supportive therapy. My foundation and belief system are based on being culturally sensitive when working with all clients to understand how they see their presenting problem within the context of their culture.

Hello!! My name is Chloe Meshel-Wood, and I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker who is passionate about creating a safe, open, and supportive space for my clients. I have learned that getting to know you and understanding your values is an important part of the healing process. My goal is to support you in navigating challenges, building on your strengths, and feeling confident taking charge of your own life. Every person is unique, and I strive to recognize and highlight my clients strengths. If you feel like we might be a good fit, please connect so I can learn more about you. Starting therapy can often feel like a challenging step, and I would be honored to support you through that process.

Hello, I'm a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with 10 years of experience in helping those in need of healing and coping with life issues and struggles that may interfere with daily living. My therapy approach is to build a relationship with my clients and create a safe space to allow clients to feel comfortable enough and trust in when sharing difficult emotions.

I’m a bilingual therapist who provides a welcoming, safe, and nonjudgmental space to explore life’s challenges. I work with clients experiencing anxiety, depression, trauma, relationship struggles, and life transitions. Together, we focus on your strengths, build resilience, and develop practical tools for meaningful change. My goal is to help you feel empowered, more confident, and connected to yourself and others while navigating life with greater ease.

A bit about me, I believe that I am not an expert on your life; you are! I am a BIPOC trauma-informed clinician. I have provided mental health services in government, academic settings, and private practice. I have experience working with teens and adults who have histories of trauma. In our sessions, I’ll keep you accountable through at-home assignments, I’ll show you how to be vulnerable through role-play, and periodically I’ll integrate different techniques such as brain-spotting, tapping, or EMDR to ensure that you leave the session feeling lighter and more equipped to embrace any challenge. I’ll ask that you pivot and lean in when you feel most like running away. Yes, I’m going to ask that you be flexible and stretch. Write this down, “try it on,” because you will hear me say this time and time again. You’re here for a reason. Are you ready to take the first step? Getting started is usually the most challenging part. Call me so that I can answer your questions; it's time to get out of your head and into a session. Start living your BEST LIFE!

Hello, I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist for the state of California and Arizona. I received my masters from the University of Phoenix and have been practicing therapy in California for about 13 years in various settings. I recently obtained my license to work with clients residing in Arizona. I have experience working in a healthcare setting, school campuses, domestic violence shelters, and with substance abuse.

Mental health is more than just managing symptoms. It’s about fostering overall well-being, inner peace, and resilience. I have ten years of practice using a holistic approach that integrates mind, body, and spirit, offering you personalized care that honors your unique experiences, culture, and values. I am dedicated to providing compassionate, evidence-based mental health services that empower individuals to achieve emotional well-being and personal growth. Through a client-centered approach, I create a safe, supportive environment where each person is treated with respect, empathy, and understanding. My goal is to help individuals and families overcome life’s challenges, foster resilience, and promote long-lasting mental health and wellness.

Hello, I am an LMFT for over 20 years, and my life experiences (growing up bicultural , traveling the world, working with military mental health, researching life and death) and drive for educating myself in many areas has given me a unique view and ability to assist those on a similar path of self knowledge. I enjoy the excitement of others achieving goals and making successful transitions in life. Life is an adventure that you create with your thoughts and desires. I am honored to help you get to the next place you want to be.

Hello, You may have often heard some people say that therapy is for only those with a mental illness or are "crazy". I'm Mark G. Koch and have been a licensed Marriage Family Therapist since 1996, and I can honestly tell you that those type of statements are a myth. Everyone has a view of how the world works and we use the tools we have to deal with our issues, but occasionally there comes a time when a problem arises that we have no answer to. At this point we become "stuck". You can say that these are the cards life has dealt you and do nothing, or you can get help to learn new ways to see your world and use new tools to change your world. You have the strength and you have the power and somewhere in your mind, you have the answers. My job is to help you find them and to show you how to use them, so that you can begin to move towards whatever your goals are for your world. I have had the opportunity to work in a variety of settings, including private practice, psychiatric hospitals, County Mental Health, non-profit organizations and most recently utilizing remote virtual therapy. I have worked with children, adolescents, adults, couples, families, and groups. My expertise in is Obsessive Compulsive Disorders and other Anxiety Disorders along with Depression, but I also have had a multitude of experience with Personality Disorders, Bi-Polar Disorders, and with dual diagnosis. A dual diagnosis is when a person has a mental health issue such as depression, and is also dealing with a drug/alcohol issue. Having said all of this, I actually have had a great amount of success dealing with adolescents, those having relationship issues, and communication between couples. I look forward to hearing from you.

Hi, I’m a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who works with children, teens, and adults navigating anxiety, stress, and emotional challenges. I provide a supportive, nonjudgmental space where clients can build coping skills, increase self-awareness, and develop healthier patterns. My goal is to help clients feel more confident, balanced, and better equipped to manage daily life challenges with clarity and confidence.

I am Geraldine Pirdy, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in California, License Number 160644. I have worked with and learned from clients in areas such as justice involvement, substance use issues, and veteran mental health, all of which share the common theme of trauma. I see clients in the context of their relationships and always explore how their challenges have affected them.

Thank you for considering therapy as part of your journey. I provide counseling for teens and adults facing challenges and life stressors. I provide a non judgmental space and welcoming to individuals of all walks of life. I work with individuals who are experiencing, anxiety, depression, trauma and major life changes. Our work will be collaborative and goal focused, helping you better understand your experiences, strengthen resilience, and develop practical tools for lasting change.

Managing life's challenges can seem overwhelming to tackle alone. Our practice specializes in creating an affirming, compassionate space for those who want to work on relationship stressors, anxiety, depression or carrying the invisible weight of trauma— there is hope, and there is help. We work with LGBTQ+, BIPOC, Couples and Families overcoming life's challenges. Here, your identity is honored, your experiences are valid, and your voice matters.

I am dedicated, compassionate professional committed to supporting individuals through life's challenges. My work centers on empowering individuals to navigate changes in relationships, and personal growth. I believe each person brings unique strengths and I strive to create a safe, supportive space where clients feel heard, respected and understood. My approach is strength based helping clients build insight, develop practical tools and move forward becoming the best version of themselves.

Hi there, I am am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) based in California. I received my masters from Azusa Pacific University and have been practicing for 8 years. Are you looking for a safe space where you can be your true self and process through unresolved problems/events? I truly believe that you are capable of overcoming hardships on your own, however sometimes it can get really intense and difficult to cope alone. Whether you are dealing with relationship issues, stress related to career/school, feeling depressed or anxious, I am here to help. Taking the first step in seeking therapy can feel like a big decision but I am proud of you. You deserve to feel seen, acknowledged, and heal to grow. In our sessions, I will meet you with compassion and evidence-based techniques so you can overcome the barriers holding you back, while providing you with my observations and thoughts.

Hi I'm Luis, a therapist who has been in the field for 15yrs. I've worked in various clinical setting in helping children, adults, and older adult clients develop healthy coping skills to manage emotional distress and to improve or return to their typical function. I'm looking forward to walking with you in finding your set of healthy coping skills and to reduce the impact of symptoms on your function.

Teisha, the heart and soul behind Mental Wellness with Teisha, a mental health practice in California. Teisha is a licensed marriage and family therapist with over 15 years of experience. As the founder of a Black, female-owned business, she is dedicated to offering mental health services that reflect her deep commitment to education, advocacy, and community support. Our practice is built on compassion, integrity, and collaboration. These core values guide us in providing the highest quality of care and ensure a respectful and empowering experience for all our clients.

I provide online individual therapy to adolescents and adults across California, offering services in both English and Spanish. I have experience assessing and treating a wide range of mental health symptoms and disorders, and I approach therapy as a collaborative process where we work together to identify goals and create meaningful change. I view you as the expert of your own life, and I’m here to offer support, guidance, and a fresh perspective when it’s helpful. My hope is that our therapeutic relationship empowers you to navigate both present and future challenges with confidence. I’m passionate about helping clients build long‑lasting, positive change through Cognitive‑Behavioral interventions, mindfulness practices, and solution‑focused strategies designed to reduce symptoms, alleviate stress, and support you through life’s transitions.

Hi, I’m Erim a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist born and raised in Southern California. One of my biggest priorities is creating a safe and welcoming place for my clients. I am experienced in treating anxiety, stress management, relationship challenges, grief, loss of relationships, job stress, disappointment management, and life transitions. My aim is to allow room for processing as well as equipping, educating, and empowering my clients with practical tools and techniques that they can use in their everyday lives.

I’m a Licensed Clinical Social Worker who helps adults ages 18 to 65+ navigate anxiety, trauma, life transitions, relationship stress, and emotional overwhelm. I provide a warm, supportive, culturally sensitive space where you can feel understood and empowered. My goal is to help you build insight, strengthen coping skills, heal past wounds, and create a more balanced and fulfilling life.

As a therapist my goal is to create a safe space where you will not be judged or criticized but instead supported and understood. I believe therapy is meant for us to face challenges and grow as a person. I believe that building awareness is the first step to healing. I have been a therapist for several years and as a result have gained an eclectic approach when it comes to therapy. I have been trained as a Cognitive Behavioral Therapist and as a Bowen Family Systems Therapist. I believe we all have the capacity to make changes in us in order to be happier and gain a healthier outlook on life Clients describe me as a good listener, empathetic, supportive, non-judgmental and “down to earth.” I provide a safe environment where you can be yourself without worrying about being judged or ridiculed. I believe that as a therapist I have the privilege to accompany you and guide you on your path to getting to know yourself better. My clinical experience ranges from working with people who struggle with depression, anxiety and mood disorders. I have a background in working with people who struggle with issues surrounding addiction. I also provide help to adults and children who have attention deficit disorder. Other areas that I have worked with include childhood trauma, self-esteem issues and personal growth.

I have been a licensed clinical social worker since 2018 and have worked in the social work field since 2015. I began my therapy practice in 2022, specializing in working with individuals experiencing anxiety and depression. While it may sound cliché, I am genuinely passionate about helping clients find relief in the moment while also making small, practical changes that support lasting improvement over time. My therapeutic style is warm, approachable, and grounded in a nonjudgmental space where clients feel safe and supported.

Hi! I'm a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) based in California with over 11 years of experience in the field. I provide a safe and supportive space for individuals to explore their experiences, rebuild confidence, and rediscover their inner strength. My approach is compassionate and tailored to each client, helping them navigate challenges and achieve meaningful personal growth. With a background that includes a Master's in Sports Psychology and a Master's in Clinical Psychology, I also enjoy working with athletes, performers, and sports families. Whether you are navigating everyday life challenges, or specifically dealing with performance anxiety, athletic identity, or the pressures of competitive sports, I offer a space to help you process those unique stressors and thrive.

Hello, I'm Nereida. I help children/adolescents and adults in healing psychological trauma and anxiety symptoms. I believe in using a team approach to guide you towards creating the change you want in your life. In our sessions, you can expect a nonjudgmental and compassionate space where we use evidenced based techniques to help you get through and gain strategies for your challenges. I look forward to working with you.

I am a therapist with ample life experience, as well as experience serving the client populations of California. I will meet you where you are and have the ability to empathize with you on many levels. I will listen, encourage and support you in a non-judgmental environment. Feel free to express yourself how you like and be open about how you feel. Let's begin this journey and make some progress together.