Therapists in North Carolina

I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. I hold a Master of Social Work degree from Appalachian State University, focused on individuals and family systems. I have lived in North Carolina all my life and resonate greatly with the people who inhabit this beautiful state, wanting to give back to those seeking mental health support. We all experience grief in our day-to-day lives. We could be feeling grief regarding a chance not taken, a divorce, the loss of a relationship, the loss of a pet, the loss of a loved one, the loss/damage of belongings, the loss of trust in the world, experiencing holidays without someone special, or having to move. We will begin by giving space for the losses and adjustments you have experienced throughout your life, ensuring each version of you can release these emotions and process them in a safe space. I will add helpful interventions, techniques, and educational tools to provide additional support and deeper understanding.

Hello, I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in the state of North Carolina. I have experience working with adults, adults with SPMI, adolescents, and families seeking support to overcome trauma, anxiety, depression, life transitions, grief, parenting issues, anger, self-esteem, codependency, and other challenges that arise in life. I completed a Bachelor's and Master of Social Work at the University of North Carolina at Pembroke with a minor in substance abuse. I utilize a collaborative and holistic approach to helping individuals overcome their challenges because they’re experts in their lives.

With experience in various roles from therapist, prevention specialist, and program director I enjoy helping young children, teenagers, and adults achieve balance in everyday living. My expertise include mental health therapy, chemical dependency counseling, curriculum development and instruction, care management, and prevention education. I have experience working with youth and adults in various settings from the foster care environment, outpatient and inpatient treatment centers, to private practice.

Hello, I’m a licensed mental health counselor dedicated to creating a safe, supportive space where you can feel heard, understood, and empowered. I take a compassionate and personalized approach, using evidence-based techniques like CBT, grief therapy, and Christian counseling (if desired) to help you navigate life’s challenges and move toward healing and growth. Whether you’re struggling with anxiety, relationship issues, loss, or simply feeling stuck, I’m here to walk with you on your journey.

Hello! I am a dual licensed (LCSW and LCAS) clinician who received my Master's Degree from Fayetteville State University. I work with individual clients of all ages, such as children who have behavioral problems; late adolescents with educational and career concerns or substance abuse problems; adults facing marital or family difficulties, or career changes; and older adults facing situational/developmental life challenges.

With over 14 years of experience as a therapist, I bring a compassionate, collaborative, and client-centered approach to every session. I believe that each individual is the expert in their own life, and my role is to create a safe, supportive space where you feel heard, respected, and empowered. My work is rooted in active listening and genuine connection. Together, we’ll explore the challenges you’re facing, identify meaningful goals, and build the tools and confidence you need to move forward. Whether you're navigating a major life transition, managing stress, healing from past experiences, or simply seeking a deeper understanding of yourself, I’m here to walk alongside you on your journey.

I am a bilingual English-Japanese Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor and Licensed Counselor Addiction Specialist. I received a Master’s in Clinical Mental Health Counseling with a concentration in Addictions Counseling in 2018 at Appalachian State University. I have worked in a residential substance use treatment facility as a counselor. My approach to counseling is based on Person-Centered theory. My goal as a counselor is to support the process of self-discovery and to enrich the lives of others.

Hi, I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) residing in North Carolina. I’ve been a social worker for almost 30 years. I’ve been working within the mental health field since 2007. I have a bachelor’s degree in social work from Campbell University and a master’s degree in social work from East Carolina University. Social work is a big part of my life and how I identify myself professionally and personally. Why? Because being a social worker is more than the work we do. Social work is all about humanity! I feel honored to have found a career that I’m passionate about and love doing it. My most important professional accomplishment is becoming a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, especially since I was first generation college student. If we ever meet professionally you will get to know how I implement my personal triumph to help others clinically. I help individual gain insight on how to manage their mood and behaviors to live their desired life.

My name is Krystal Hall and I am a licensed clinical mental health counselor, as well as a licensed clinical addiction specialist. I am also the owner of Joy's New Beginnings Counseling Services. For the past ten years, I have had the pleasure of assisting individuals in obtaining a new way of life without the day-to-day experience of problematic symptoms related to their own mental health and/or substance use. I have worked in many different roles including individual therapist, group therapist, clinical supervisor, and community advocate.

Hello I am a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor in North Carolina. I have over 30 years of experience working in mental health settings. I provide individual and couples counseling to adults only. I utilize CBT techniques most often. But I also tailor my sessions to the individuals or couples that I work with so I often utilize many other treatment approaches. I do my best to provide a safe, unbiased, nonjudgmental environment for my clients so they may feel comfortable discussing their feelings and concerns openly with me. I work to aid and support issues related to depression, anxiety, grief, relationship conflict, premarital counseling, job stress, LGBTQIA+ community issues and many more.

Hi, I am a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor in the State of North Carolina. I have 4 years of experience as a therapist, but over 15 years of experience in the mental health field. I received my Masters Degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from the University of Kentucky. I'm very passionate about helping individuals to address their challenges and live more rewarding lives. I am also licensed in the states of Kentucky and South Carolina.

Hi. I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker located in North Carolina. I received my graduate degree from Appalachian State University. I have been in practice for five years. I have worked as a Medical Social worker for ten years prior to licensure and am familiar with folks living (and thriving) with chronic health conditions. I have worked in rural communities doing therapy in homes as well. I have seen amany facits of peoples lives and am grateful to have been allowed to be a part of their journey.

Hi! I'm an Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) based in North Carolina. I earned my Master of Social Work from the Ohio State University, and I have been practicing clinical social work for 4 years. I have wide range of experience including working with clients who are struggling with anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, and life transitions and adjustment. I am passionate about helping clients learn effective coping skills to decrease their symptoms and get back to the life they enjoy!

I was born in Raleigh, NC. After graduating from East Carolina University, I moved to New York City to obtain my Master’s Degree in Social Work from Columbia University in 2019. I provide trauma-informed therapy primarily to adolescents and adults, who are experiencing grief, anxiety/depression, and identity struggles due to life transitions. When I am not in session, I enjoy cooking, reading, and listening to podcasts.

I am licensed in North Carolina with 14 years of professional work experience. I have experience in helping clients with stress and anxiety, trauma and abuse, motivation, self-esteem, confidence, & depression. I believe that you are the expert on your story and that you have many strengths that will assist you in overcoming things that challenge you. Taking the first step to sign up for therapy can take courage, and I am proud of you for getting started!

Hi! I'm an Independent Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) providing services in South Carolina, North Carolina, and Tennessee. I received my Masters from the University of South Carolina (USC) and have practiced for 27 years. I help individuals and couples struggling with depression, anxiety, stress, grief, transition, and communication issues. I work with couples and individuals to develop the skills they need to become the best versions of themselves.

Hello! I’m a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) based in North Carolina. I received my Masters from Simmons University and have been practicing for 8 years. I want to honor your courage and curiosity in taking this next step towards bettering your mental health. Life can bring waves of transition, many wonderful and empowering; others more difficult, scary, and confusing. I specialize and enjoy partnering with individuals to provide support and explore ways to improve quality of life for all through transitions such as (and not limited to) retirement, end of life, bereavement, change in independence, career exploration, caregiver stress, medical diagnosis, identity, and separation/divorce and the varied accompanying mental health symptoms (depression, anxiety, isolation, poor self-care). I offer a holistic and person-centered approach embracing empowerment, narratives, and strengths to rebalance joy and fulfillment as life transitions.

I'm Christine Murray (she/her/hers), the Founder of Start Here Counseling & Consulting, PLLC. I'm on a mission to promote mental health, healthy relationships, and thriving communities. I have over two decades of experience working in the mental health field. Based in Greensboro, North Carolina, I’m a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) and Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor (LCMHC) in North Carolina, as well as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) and Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC) in my home state of Pennsylvania. My counseling practice specializes primarily in working with individuals who are on a journey toward healing and growth following unhealthy, toxic, and/or abusive relationships in any area of life, especially survivors of intimate partner violence / domestic violence. I also work with a limited number of clients who are navigating general life transitions and struggles. Although I work primarily with individuals, as a trained marriage and family therapist, I also work with couples and families.

I am a Licensed Mental Health Counselor in North Carolina and Virginia with over 25 years of experience working with Children and Adults. I am also a licensed Chaplain and Ordained Pastor providing spiritual counseling for over 25 years. I have worked with clients with a wide range of concerns including depression, anxiety, relationship issues, parenting problems, career challenges, OCD, and ADHD, PTSD and trauma. I also assisted many people who have experienced physical trauma or emotional abuse. My therapy style is warm and interactive. I believe in treating everyone with respect, sensitivity, and compassion, and I don't believe in stigmatizing labels. My approach combines cognitive-behavioral, person centered, trauma focused, solution focused therapy and spiritual counseling. I will tailor our dialog and treatment plan to meet your unique and specific needs. It takes courage to seek a more fulfilling and happier life and to take the first steps towards change. If you are ready to take that step, I am here to support and empower you. I will meet you where you are and assist you with getting to where you want to be. I look forward to working with you!

Feeling stressed, anxious, confused, bored, lonely, sad or down? Struggling with an addiction or past/current traumas? Over the years I have helped many people work through these issues to empower them to improve and enjoy a better quality of life. I know firsthand how it may feel vulnerable and unsettling to reach out and ask for help with therapy. However, I firmly believe we all deserve the opportunity to improve ourselves. I am a LCSW and LCAS, graduated with a MSW in 2005 from UNC-Charlotte. I am a skilled and accomplished Behavior Health Therapist with integrity, empathy and compassion specializing in the treatment of co-occurring Mental Health and Substance Use Disorders to empower clients and their families to improve their quality of life.

As a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor, Licensed Clinical Addiction Specialist, and Certified Clinical Supervisor Intern, I am dedicated to helping you discover your life's purpose. I believe that with honesty, openness, and willingness, change is possible. I appreciate you taking the time to seek my support, and I am thrilled to accompany you on your journey through life’s challenges.

I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with a Masters in Social Work from Marywood University. I have 19 years experience as a clinical psych specialist helping adults manage anxiety, depression, stress, and life transitions. I work with clients who feel overwhelmed, stuck in negative thought patterns, or are navigating difficult life changes. My goal is to provide a supportive, compassionate and safe space where one can feel empowered to move forward with confidence.

If you are looking to embrace your past experiences and reach your full potential, I am the therapist for you. I am passionate about my work in mental health. My relationship with therapy has had a profoundly positive influence on my life and the goal in my practice is to instill those same experiences in you. During our time together, you will address issues that affect your mental well-being, and learn to replace unwanted behavior with new activities.

My name is Donald R. Gidney. I have 12 years of experience working as a psychotherapist. I'm a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. I am currently licensed to practice in North Carolina as a LCSW & South Carolina as an LISW-CP. My areas of expertise include anxiety, stress, depression, substance abuse, phase of life issues, anger management, dual diagnosis, communication skills & PTSD. I use a person-centered & approach to therapy starting with engagement which involves developing a relationship, building rapport & hearing the client's story so that I can gain an understanding of presenting problems. Then I conduct a thorough assessment which includes exploring the client's past/childhood to gain an understanding of their present challenges. I then provide insights, psycho-education & assist them with understanding their problems, developing their strengths, learning new ways of thinking & behaving so that they can overcome life's challenges. My primary therapy approaches are Motivational Interviewing, Adlerian & Mindfulness Cognitive Behavioral Therapies.

Hello, I am Ann Aycock, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker based in the heart of North Carolina. With 10 years of dedicated practice, I have had the privilege of walking alongside individuals from diverse backgrounds, helping them navigate their unique journeys toward healing, personal growth, and achieving their life goals. My mission is to create a safe, supportive space where you can feel heard and understood. Together, we will identify practical strategies and tools to overcome challenges and unlock the best version of yourself. Whether you’re seeking clarity, resilience, or a renewed sense of purpose, I am here to help you take the next step with confidence and compassion.

Hello! I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker based in North Carolina. I received my MSW from the JMSW program at UNCG and NCAT and have been practicing for close to six years with a variety of populations. I have experience working with clients with both mental health and/or substance use from age 5 to those 65+. I enjoy helping people become the best version of themself that they can be.

I am a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor in North Carolina. I have over 14 years of experience in the mental health field, and I have worked as a clinician, clinical supervisor and school counselor. I work well with people of all ages and backgrounds. I provide individual, group and family therapy to children, adolescents and adults. My theoretical approaches include Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Motivational Interviewing and Solution Focused Therapy; however, adjustments and approaches are made to tailor to the needs of each client.

Greetings, I am a licensed Clinical Therapist. I have been a therapist for over 10+ years. I provide brief therapy (30 minutes sessions and 60 minute sessions). I actively listen to assist clients to feel good inside and out by gaining insight into feelings of anxiety or depression. Through building rapport, I assist clients to build and increase self-worth/self-esteem, self-love and being empowered to utilize tools gained during sessions to manage feelings and address challenging areas of life (relationships, jobs, social interactions) to begin living the life client's truly desire to live. Schedule your first appointment and I will assist you in meeting the goals you have for your mental health and in your life.

I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) located in Raleigh, North Carolina. I graduated from East Carolina University with my Master of Social Work and also have my bachelors degree in Family and Community Services with a concentration in Child Development. I am currently in the process of working towards my Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) certification. When I am not working, I am going on walks, listening to Taylor Swift, trying new coffee shops , baking, or spending time with my friends/family. I also enjoy traveling to new places and exploring with those closest to me!

Hello: I am a licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor located in the Triad region of North Carolina . I have been in practice as a counselor for the last thirty years, and prior to living in NC lived and worked southern Maine where I spent a good deal of my time as a counselor working in a variety of settings and working with children, adolescents and adults.

Do you struggle with anxiety, depression, bipolar disorder, PTSD, mood disorders, gender identity issues, relationship challenges, or any other mental health concerns? If so, you are not alone. I offer a diverse range of evidence-based therapies that have been scientifically proven to alleviate symptoms associated with mental health disorders. My therapeutic interventions include Person-Centered Therapy, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, Behavioral Therapy, and Solution-Focused Therapy. I empower those lacking motivation, encourage those who feel helpless and hopeless, and guide individuals who believe they have no purpose. I also teach coping skills to help navigate daily challenges. Let's start today on the path to regaining control of your life. I look forward to hearing from you.

I believe there is power in learning to balance our lives emotionally and spiritually. I have 25-plus years of experience as a counselor, and have been able to help clients find emotional and general life balance. I draw from primary treatment modalities of Cognitive Behavioral, Dialectical Behavioral, Solution Focused, Psychodynamic, and Existential Theories. At the conclusion of counseling, clients should be able to actively deal with their internal states in a way that allows them to feel more at peace with increased self-esteem, and well-being.

Hi, my name is Anna Lanier-Comar. I have been practicing in the mental health field for 17 years. I served in the Air Force Reserves for 8 years as a Mental Health Technician while earning my MA in Clinical Mental Health Counseling. I completed the requirements for Licensure while working at an inpatient Eating Disorder Facility in North Carolina. I have been practicing as a Licensed Therapist since 2017. Most of my professional experience is in treating Anxiety, Depression, Bipolar disorder, Borderline personality disorder and Eating disorders. I use a few different modalities in therapy. I work to help clients feel empowered over their human experience; good and bad. If you have not participated in therapy before it can seem a little daunting. During the first session, we will go over your relevant history and compile a list of goals you would like to accomplish while in therapy. In the following sessions, we will increase coping skills and strategies, along with awareness of your emotions, thoughts, and behaviors. Throughout therapy we will work to increase your resilience, confidence and adaptability to all life has to throw at you, as well as heal from the parts of your past that need your attention.

I am passionate about assisting individuals with improving their quality of life and daily functioning during the most delicate and vulnerable times in their lives. I work with adolescents, adults, couples and families by helping them to develop coping strategies, improve mental health/interpersonal skills, and techniques to decrease life stressors and mental health symptoms that negatively impact personal functioning and quality of life. I am a Certified Trauma-Focused Cognitive Behavior Therapist and focuses on the effective treatment for those that have endured sexual, physical, emotional, childhood and domestic abuse. I consider myself to be an Integrative Psychotherapist, which means I use a variety of orientations and therapies to be able to meet the client’s individual needs.

I am a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor in North Carolina. I have been helping people navigate their challenges for 13 years. I have worked in homes, community practices, schools, and a psychiatric hospital with adults, teenagers, and families. I am most experienced helping with anxiety, depression, adjustment and trauma, and eating disorders. I take an eclectic approach to therapy, using interventions and skills that are evidence-based and relevant to the particular client I am with.

I am a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor based in Raleigh, North Carolina. I have more than 10 years of counseling experience and has worked in private practice since 2021. I received a Master of Arts degree in Counseling from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock. I also hold a Master of Education degree in School Counseling from Liberty University, located at Lynchburg, Virginia.

Hello, I'm a Licensed Clinical Social Worker who is patient, attentive, and empathic to my clients. I have over 10 years of experience working within the senior and adult mental health community. I foster a therapeutic environment where adults, seniors, and caregivers feel understood, valued, and supported in their unique life circumstances. I have a Master's of Social Work from the University of South Carolina.

Hello! I am so glad you came across my profile; and that you are considering taking this very important step towards changing your life. I am a licensed clinical social worker, based in the Raleigh Durham area of North Carolina. I am licensed in North Carolina, Connecticut, Florida, and Texas. I received my undergraduate degree from the University of North Carolina at Wilmington and my graduate degree from the University of Georgia. I have spent the majority of my career in healthcare settings and working with adults who are experiencing challenges with mental health. I help clients with long-term health conditions find effective coping skills as well as meaning and acceptance in their diagnosis. I have also worked with children who have a loved one facing a life-altering medical diagnosis. My experience is not limited to working with individuals who are facing a medical diagnosis, as I also have worked extensively with clients facing depression, anxiety, interpersonal challenges, self-esteem issues, and end-of-life challenges. I view therapy as a collaboration, as you are the expert of your own life; we will work jointly to create a treatment that is both realistic and meaningful so that you can live a full and value-driven life! I have a certificate to provide tobacco cessation counseling for individuals looking to live a smoke-free lifestyle.

I am a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor based in North Carolina. My experience comes from providing direct mental health care in various settings and providing grief counseling to children in school and national grief counseling settings. I have worked with children, teens, and adults with varied presenting issues, including anxiety, depression, anger management, trauma, stress, low self-esteem, Women issues, Marital/ Pre-Marital, Spirituality, Life Coaching, and family issues. I approach the therapeutic relationship with respect and dignity for each client. I walk with them on their journey to wholeness at their own pace. I worked with individuals and families from diverse backgrounds, helping them navigate their challenges. I am compassionate and a great listener. I believe in what I do and am compassionate about helping the people I serve. We all can reach our highest potential, which is what I want to help my clients obtain. Many individuals I worked with have had setbacks, but once they believe in themselves, they realize their stumbling blocks are only stepping stones to their destination. Working toward a more fulfilling and happier life takes a lot of strength and determination. If you allow me, I will walk with you on your journey. I earned a Master of Arts (MA) in Professional Counseling from Liberty University. I have six years of professional Counseling and over thirty years of experience working in human services.

As a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor in NC and AZ, and holding a doctorate in traumatology, I guide clients through trauma recovery with compassion and expertise. I provide a safe, supportive space for insight, empowerment, and lasting change using a variety of evidence-based treatment modalities. You don't have to navigate this alone. Healing is possible, and I'm here to walk alongside you with compassion and understanding. Whether you're feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or simply ready for change, I invite you to reach out. Together, we can create a path toward clarity, connection, and a more empowered you.

Hello and welcome to your healing journey! My name is JaSarah N. Baldwin. I am a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor and a Licensed Clinical Addiction Specialist - Associate. I would first like to thank you for considering me to be a part of our journey and for taking this incredible step in your life. I am an advocate for mental health wellness for myself and others. Sometimes in life we are hit with so many obstacles that we do not know what or where to go. My goal as a counselor is to assist you with what you need to jump of the hurdles that you may experience.

Hello and congratulations on taking the first step in getting the support you need and deserve. As a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with over a decade of experience, I understand how intimidating the process of starting therapy can be. What I would want you to know is I take a collaborative approach to treatment and look forward to walking with you as you work towards reaching the version of yourself you seek. I look forward to connecting with you and starting that journey together!

I’m Courtney, a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor with over 15 years experience. I’ve worked with clients in a number of settings, from substance abuse, community mental health, private outpatient, managed care, and inpatient settings. I love to partner on the journey with clients and assist them in living more balanced, rich, fulfilling lives. I've been a prior consumer of therapy myself and have valued the therapeutic process on a personal level.

Hello, there! I'm a licensed clinical social worker (LCSW) raised in the Piedmont region of North Carolina and have been supporting clients in the area since 2021. Outside of private practice I volunteer as a crisis counselor and victim's advocate. Outside of my work, I’m deeply committed to my own spiritual growth as a way to expand compassion, lessen suffering, and hold space for others on their path to peace. I find renewal in nature, often through hiking, camping, or simply being outdoors, and value time spent with loved ones and giving back to my community. This personal grounding helps me show up with presence and care, and I welcome those who feel drawn to reach out.

Change can be scary, but it doesn't have to be. We all face situations throughout life that can make us feel overwhelmed and in need of support, encouragement, strategic planning or goal setting. You are not alone. I provide a safe, warm and friendly environment for growth and healing. You may need support in family life transitions, a parent-child relationship, peers groups, marriage, divorce, social issues, academic challenges or behavioral issues. While we are working together, I take a collaborative approach to help you to achieve your goals and overcome the challenges you're facing in life. I am here to support and empower you on your personal journey. Recognizing when issues in life have become too much to handle alone and seeking assistance is a great first step on your healing journey. It takes a lot of courage to reach out to someone, so I applaud you on taking that first huge step.

Hello. I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker living in North Carolina, but born and raised in Virginia. I am licensed in both North Carolina and Virginia. I received my Master of Social Work degree from Norfolk State University. I have 18+ years of experience working with a diverse population. I work with clients ages 18 and older who want to work through life's challenges in order to improve their quality of life. Thank you for considering me to be your psychotherapist.

My name is Dominique Squire, and I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. With a diverse professional background, I’ve had the privilege of working with individuals from various cultural and age groups, supporting them through challenges such as trauma, crisis, depression, anxiety, substance use, relationship issues, career concerns, family and parenting conflicts, anger management, and struggles with motivation, self-esteem, and self-confidence.

Welcome! I'm so glad you're here. As a friendly and compassionate therapist, I work with individuals ages 10 to 65, offering support through a person-centered approach and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT). Whether you're a child, teen, young adult, or adult, my goal is to create a safe space where you can explore challenges, build healthy coping skills, and improve communication in your daily life.

Hello! I am a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor based in North Carolina. I have been practicing for 11 years. I help individuals learn how to process life changes so that they can support themselves through life transitions. As a therapist, I am here to provide you with a safe and supportive space to explore your thoughts, feelings, and experiences. Together, we will work collaboratively to identify your goals and develop personalized strategies to help you overcome challenges, cultivate resilience, and achieve greater well-being. With empathy, understanding, and evidence-based techniques, I am committed to supporting you on your journey toward growth and positive change.

Hi! I'm a licensed clinical social worker (LCSW) and licensed clinical addiction counselor (LCAS.) I went to graduate school at the University of Vermont and have provided therapy services for more than 30 years in outpatient mental health settings as well as in inpatient psychiatric and addiction treatment settings. I'm in long-term recovery from alcohol and opiate dependence. Fun fact: I worked on an offshore lobster boat in the Gulf of Maine for 4 years.