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If you are looking for structured CBT or skills-based homework, I may not be the right fit. Therapy with me involves examining avoidance and ambivalence as they arise (I’ll tend to be more direct with you when emotional or mental patterns like that emerge). Most people don’t need more advice. They need space to slow down enough to hear what’s actually happening inside them. My work is less about fixing and more about listening; not just to the words, but to what’s underneath them. The pace of our conversations will be different from the rest of your life: slower, steadier, more honest. My goal is to help you come into contact with yourself again, to notice what’s true and what you really want.

I am a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor. I graduated with a Masters degree in Professional Counseling at Grand Canyon University. I have 4 years of working for Los Angeles County DMH where I provide many therapeutic skills and specialties to treat individuals. I am passionate and dedicated in guiding individuals to reach their life goals and their best potential in life.

I’m Kasi Barkawi-Buck, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist dedicated to supporting adults through life’s challenges with compassion and clarity. I provide a warm, collaborative space where clients can explore emotions, strengthen coping skills, and work through stress, anxiety, relationship concerns, and past trauma. My goal is to help individuals build resilience, deepen self-understanding, and create a more balanced, fulfilling life.

Congratulations on taking steps to better yourself. My name is Vincent, and I'm a licensed therapist based in California with over 20 years of experience. If you are ready for positive change, then let’s begin the journey. I've helped everyone from high school teens to older adults overcome life challenges and gain a better understanding of their situation. I bring a wealth of experience and I'm here to support you.

I am a bilingual (English/Farsi) and multicultural Licensed Clinical Psychologist. I have over 10 years of training, and experience in my field. I received her BA from California State University of San Marcos and earned my Master's and Doctorate degree in clinical psychology from APA accredited Alliant International University. '¨ I have experience providing bilingual services to teens, adults, older adults, Family, and a couples in a variety of settings including community mental health, inpatient/outpatient, and college counseling settings. I began my clinical work at South Bay Guidance Center and Sharp Mesa Vista's Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) Intensive Outpatient Program. I completed an APA-approved Pre-doctoral and post-doctoral internship at Institute for Multicultural Counseling and Education Services.'¨'¨I provide Individual, couples, and family therapy for teens, adults and older adults, and specializes in the treatment of depression, anxiety, grief and loss, identity conflict, trauma, anger management, emotion dysregulation, perfectionism, substance use and difficult life transitions. I help clients find their inner resiliency by using integrated approach which includes evidenced-based therapy centered on the following frameworks: psychodynamic, Cognitive Behavioral, Dialectical-Behavioral, Acceptance and Commitment, and Mindful Self-Compassion therapy. Everyone has the capacity for true positive change. I value the complexity of people's unique diverse backgrounds and life values/goals, and use these to guide treatment to help clients reach their potential. My goal is to help you understand your past and develop new ways of dealing with life challenges to create a healthier present. I believe that the best therapy is done when the client and therapist have a strong working relationship. Developing a safe, trusting relationship and working collaboratively creates an environment in which this change can happen more quickly and effectively. I view myself as a caring change agent ready to facilitate the process in a beneficial and meaningful way.

"Can she help me?" - A question you maybe asking yourself as you move through profile after profile, browsing bio after bio. Everything you are going through in your life right now, has brought you to this very point- where you have run out of solutions, options and ideas. You have tried everything you know so far. You're here, hoping to find a professional who not only understands you, but can also help you figure out how to redirect your life in a way that will be the most aligned, to what you want it to be. THIS is a moment worthy of pride. The fact that you are looking for help at all, says that you are someone who wants something better, something different. That you are not content with adjusting to struggle but you want to do what you can to elevate your life to a level that you feel good about. You're doing your part on working on yourself. How about I tell you what part I can play so you don't have to do that alone? Hi, my name is Nam and I have been a therapist helping people exactly like you, for 22 years. While I have 3 graduate degrees, several certifications and many years of helping people across 2 continents, under my belt, I have one solid mission in the work I do. To help every single person I work with find ease in their relationship with others and with themselves. I specialize in working with men and their loved ones with a focus on Relationships.

Welcome! My name is Craig Harris. I am a licensed clinical social worker (LCSW) currently providing telehealth services. I currently work with adult individuals (all age ranges). I do not currently work with anyone under the age of 18, do not offer family or couples counseling. I offer a safe, nonjudgmental and supportive environment for you to find a path to a healthier, more fulfilling life. I am passionate about working with people to improve their lives. I am a huge believer that a good connection is the foundation of good therapy. I currently work at a Level 1 Trauma Center as an Emergency Department Crisis Social Worker. I am inspired every day to help patients and their families cope with traumatic injuries and mental health crises. I do have extensive experience in the areas of depression, anxiety, work stress, addiction & chronic pain. I have also worked in a variety of mental health settings (outpatient, community based, in-home services and residential treatment programs). I have worked with children, adults and families in a variety of settings for over 20 years. I combine understanding and empathy with a straight forward, strength-based and solution-focused approach. I am here to help you reach your goals and improve your relationships with your family, friends, co-workers, loved ones and most importantly yourself. I look forward to speaking with you.

Chang "Raphael" Liu possesses over six years of dedicated experience supporting individuals navigating complex mental health challenges. He employs a holistic, trauma-informed approach, recognizing the profound impact past experiences have on present well-being. Raphael specializes in helping clients effectively manage symptoms associated with anxiety, depression, addiction and trauma. Furthermore, he has extensive expertise in addressing the unique developmental struggles faced by adolescents, offering targeted strategies for identity formation, peer pressure, and navigating familial transitions. His practice is focused on empowering clients toward sustainable healing and self-discovery.

Hi, my name is Gerald Anderson. I am a licensed Therapist in California, an LMFT. I have worked as a therapist for a long time. Helping people from many diverse back grounds. I have worked with couples, individuals, and children, helping them to have the support and the tools to process and work through their problems, marital conflicts. I have also worked with drug involved individuals, who are in recovery and I am familiar with the 12 step process.

I’m a bilingual therapist who provides a welcoming, safe, and nonjudgmental space to explore life’s challenges. I work with clients experiencing anxiety, depression, trauma, relationship struggles, and life transitions. Together, we focus on your strengths, build resilience, and develop practical tools for meaningful change. My goal is to help you feel empowered, more confident, and connected to yourself and others while navigating life with greater ease.

Hello, and thank you for taking the time to read my profile. I believe it’s no coincidence that you found your way here — this may be part of God’s plan for you to pause, reflect, and explore support for your journey. I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with eight years of experience in the mental health field and four years in private practice. I earned my Master’s degree in Marriage and Family Therapy from Pacific Oaks College in Pasadena, California, in 2008. Over the years, I have had the privilege of working with many incredible clients and families, each bringing their own unique strengths, resilience, and life experiences.

I work with individuals going through life transitions and unexpected directions in life. I have experience in motivational interviewing, cognitive behavioral therapy, and trauma focused practice. I like to include a variety of resources like written information, videos, and worksheets for outside of sessions . I also like to work with clients to identify natural supports outside of therapy. My goal is to work as a team with clients to reach goals in a structured way.

My name is Jennifer Limon and I’m a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT). I’m also a proud first-generation college graduate, raised by migrant worker parents who came to this country in search of a better life. Their journey shaped my values and inspired my passion for helping others navigate life’s transitions with resilience and purpose. I especially enjoy working with teens and young adults who are facing major life changes starting college, entering the workforce, dealing with stress or burnout, becoming a parent, or adjusting to a new life stage. These transitions can be overwhelming, and it’s easy to feel anxious, lost, or stuck. My goal is to help you build the tools and confidence to manage these changes, reduce anxiety and depression, and move forward with more clarity, calm, and self-compassion. You don’t have to go through this alone . I’m here to support you as you find your footing and create a life that feels meaningful and manageable.

I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with 10 years of experience providing compassionate and evidence-based mental health care. With a compassionate and client-centered approach, I help individuals navigate life’s challenges and discover paths toward healing, growth, and self-understanding. My practice focuses on creating a safe, nonjudgmental space where clients can explore emotions, build resilience, and develop meaningful coping strategies. Drawing from evidence-based methods, I support people struggling with anxiety, stress, trauma, relationship concerns, and personal transitions. My goal is to empower clients to foster deeper self-awareness and create sustainable, positive change in their lives.

I have been a licensed therapist for 19 years. I believe the most important part of therapy is the therapeutic relationship. The therapeutic relationship is formed in a collaboration between myself and my clients in an environment of mutual acceptance and respect. In addition to my education, training and experience as a therapist I rely on my innate skills as an active listener, my good memory and genuine caring to guide me in my approach to therapy.

Hi! My name is Junise Dorestin and I am a License Marriage and Family Therapist. Prior to becoming a therapist, I worked as a children social service worker with Child Protective Services. I have been working in the field of mental health for over 10 years. I obtained my Masters of Art in Psychology emphasis Marriage and Family Therapy from Alliant International University in 2008. I have experienced in working with incarcerated individuals, families, children and young adult. I use a broad range of treatment method to assist individuals and families in the process of reaching their goals. As a LMFT, I am passionate about helping others work through their struggles and built insight. I work those who are struggling with a variety of issues including depression, anxiety, bipolar, PTSD and stress. I have work with those with psychotic disorders and dual diagnoses.

Hi! I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker based out of California. I have a Masters Degree from the University of Southern California and a Bachelors degree in Social Work from the University of North Carolina at Wilmington. I spent 8 years in the Navy and have lived all over the world. I have been a Social Worker for 15 years and have been working as a Therapist for 10 years. I have recently trained and am certified as an EMDR therapist.

Hello, my name is Nicole and welcome to my page! I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and therapist. I am looking to work with individuals ready to create meaningful change, seek greater self understanding and improve quality of life and relationships. I offer a supportive and nonjudgmental space that encourages collaboration and self growth. My approach can be described as eclectic, client-centered and strength-based. I utilize tools from Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) to help my clients identify and challenge unhelpful thought patterns. My intention is that over time and with consistency we will work through areas that prove difficult in your life to bring positive and lasting change. Seeking therapy is taking a step in the right direction to prioritize your mental health and overall well-being. I'm glad you are here.

Hi, I’m Randy. Are you feeling stuck in cycles of stress, anxiety, anger, or emotional exhaustion—easily triggered, on edge, overwhelmed, or unsure how to move forward? You don’t have to carry this alone. I have experience helping veterans heal from combat trauma, supporting survivors of military sexual trauma, and working with men and women in fire and police service. I also support Gold Star families as they navigate grief and loss. In addition, I work well with individuals facing work-related stress, leadership pressure, burnout, and high levels of responsibility. Whether this is your first time seeking therapy or you’ve worked with therapists before, I recognize the courage it takes to reach out. In our work together, you’ll find a safe, grounded space to heal and grow. I approach therapy with compassion and evidence-based techniques, helping you understand what’s not working, regulate stress and emotions, and move toward greater balance, clarity, and a renewed sense of control in your life. Ofrezco servicios de terapia en inglés y en español.

You might be in a very dark sad and lonely place, or you may be feeling intense anxiety and sometimes even panic or perhaps you are dealing with a lot of pain and uncertainty due to illness or disability. Right now, you’re at the point of knowing that something has to change, you’re ready but you just don’t know how to do it on your own. You want to feel better. You just want to be yourself again, maybe a different or better version of yourself. As your therapist I can be a flashlight as you walk through this shadowy path that you find yourself on right now. Whether I use solution focused therapy, DBT, mindfulness-based cognitive therapy, trauma informed CBT, Emotionally Focused couples therapy or a mix, what matters most is the safe environment we will create so that you can share openly and allow yourself to be vulnerable with someone who will truly listen, support and empower you as you create the best version of yourself possible.

You don’t have to carry this alone. I’m a California-licensed therapist who supports adolescents, young adults, women, and people from diverse cultural backgrounds through stress, relationship dynamics, family conflicts, and trauma recovery. Whether you’re juggling academic pressure, caregiving, career pivots, or the weight of old wounds, I offer a steady, nonjudgmental presence. My style is warm, collaborative, and culturally responsive—I honor the identities, histories, and values that shape who you are, and I approach our work with curiosity, humility, and respect.

I have been practicing in the field for over a decade. I have specialized training in trauma, addictions, relationship enhancement, marital and premarital. I work with adults, and couples. I have a heart for seeing relationships thrive. I believe Love is Enough. I will walk along side you through transitions, hurt, pain, and making sense of the present and complex situations.

Hi there! Nice to meet you. My name is Ryan and I am really glad you are here. I’m not your stereotypical “sit and nod” kind of therapist—I like to keep things real, down-to-earth, and maybe even a little fun when it feels right. My goal is to create a space where you can show up exactly as you are, without fear of being judged or “too much.” I work with both teens and adults, using a person-centered approach that focuses on you—your story, your strengths, and your pace. Whether you’re navigating anxiety, depression, or figuring out life as a neurodivergent person in a world that doesn’t always get it, we’ll work together to make sense of what’s been heavy and find ways to lighten the load. I’m here to help you understand yourself better, build self-trust, and move toward a life that feels more balanced and authentic. Therapy with me is a mix of empathy, honesty, and humor. Some days it’s deep reflection; other days it’s simply finding a moment of calm in the chaos. I believe growth doesn’t have to mean changing who you are—it’s about reconnecting with who you’ve always been. Outside of sessions, I’m usuall spending time at the gym, with my dog that I am training to be my service dog, my latest crochet project, thrifting, mindfulness exercises or in my own therapy. If you’re looking for a therapist who’s approachable, open-minded, and genuinely invested in helping you feel understood, I’d love to meet you.

I am here for you. As a seasoned Therapist, I understand that embarking on the therapy journey can be scary and bring up numerous feelings. This is "your time" to explore, take risks, sit quietly and lead in whatever way feels most comfortable for you. I do not believe that there is one way to do therapy. If you have difficulty starting to tell your story, I may ask you questions to get to know you. I understand that just as I am getting to know you, you are getting to know me. We are mutually exploring "our fit."

Hello! I’m a Licensed Clinical Social Worker who earned my Master’s from USC in 2014. If anxiety or depression has made you feel disconnected from who you are, I am here to help. I pride myself on seeing the fullness of every client I work with, embracing life's complexities and dualities to help you navigate your unique path toward healing.

I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist located in the state of California. I received my Master's Degree from Antioch University Los Angeles and have been practicing for 18 years. Working together, I help adults work to find solutions to ongoing issues causing anxiety, sadness and loneliness in their lives so they may become the best version of themselves.

Hello. My name is Brian Kaufman. I am a licensed clinical social worker. I am licensed in California with over 20 years of professional experience. I believe in treating everyone with dignity, respect, sensitivity, and compassion. My commitment to you is to be by your side every step of the way. I believe there is goodness inside of everyone and I will be sure to point out to you where that goodness is inside of you. Taking the first step to sign up for therapy can take courage and I am proud of you for getting started!

Hi, my name is Idania Arellano, I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in California. I received a master's degree in Marital and Family Therapy from Loma Linda University in 2019. I have worked in human services for since 2010 in various capacities including drug and alcohol and case management in group homes. I enjoy working as a therapist and feel privileged to help others work on themselves.

As a clinician, I am dedicated to achieving results for my clients. I believe my clients can find their best solutions, and my job is to help them navigate towards these goals. I take a collaborative approach, working together with my clients to explore and distinguish difficult emotions and their underlying story. Once my client has a good understanding of where they’ve been and where they are, we can work together to plot a course towards where they want to me.

Hi I'm Luis, a therapist who has been in the field for 15yrs. I've worked in various clinical setting in helping children, adults, and older adult clients develop healthy coping skills to manage emotional distress and to improve or return to their typical function. I'm looking forward to walking with you in finding your set of healthy coping skills and to reduce the impact of symptoms on your function.

Hello! I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) currently eligible to see Telehealth clients in California and Florida. I have been practicing Holistic Psychotherapy in my private practice for 7 years specializing in Hypnotherapy and trauma resolution. I assist adults to navigate life transitions such as grief, heartbreak, career changes, healing from trauma or outdated versions of themselves, so they can feel more free and present in everyday life.

Hi, I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker Licensed in California with 18+ years of professional clinical experience. I have experience in helping clients with stress, anxiety, family conflicts, motivation, self esteem, confidence, & depression. I also have experience working with coping with life changes. I help adults who are struggling, become the best version of themselves at their own pace.

Hi there, I'm Edward, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. I have a diverse background in my years working in the mental health field which includes having two Masters in Social Work and Criminal Justice. I have worked with families, individuals, and couples, with issues such as anxiety, depression, behavioral issues, thought disorders, and emotional disturbances. I have worked in a variety of different settings that have helped me develop a unique skill set in addressing overall mental health. Some examples include outpatient/inpatient care, hospice, the prison system, and the education system. My approach is collaborative and I strive to make my patients feel understood and heard throughout the process. I often explain to them that even though I may be the professional, they are the professionals of their own lives and it's just an honor to play a small part in supporting them.

Hi! I'm a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist based in California. I received my Masters in Counseling Psychology from California Baptist University, Bachelors in Psychology from California State University, San Bernardino. I help adults who are struggling with anxiety, depression, life transitions, self-esteem issues, relationship issues, co-dependency, school issues, trauma, among other issues, to help them discover how to become a better version of themselves.

My name is Kenny Gallegos and I am a psychotherapist. As I a therapist, I enjoy helping people identify challenging aspects of their lives affecting their mental health and collaborating with them to achieve a more stable quality of life. I focus on utilizing a variety of approaches and techniques, ranging from CBT, DBT, trauma-informed, and STI to mindfulness, to serve a diverse population of ages and ethnic backgrounds while remaining client-centered.

Hello my name is Virginia Myricks, LMFT and my goal is to encourage, challenge and empower you to uncover your true potential and lead a life that is worth celebrating. While we can't change difficult situations, we can work together to better understand and resolve challenges in your life. I understand that every individual struggles with life challenges in their own unique way and it would be my pleasure to work with you on identifying your goals, offering treatment interventions that are best suited to your individual needs and to assist you in experiencing a more fulfilling and meaningful life.

Bienvenidos! Soy Norma. Welcome! I am Norma, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker specialized in depression, anxiety and life transitions. Culturally sensitive therapist, committed to help older adults (60+) overcome life challenges utilizing Cognitive Behavioral Therapy which focuses on identifying and changing maladaptive thought patterns and replace them with more objective and realistic thoughts. As a Latina woman, I have had the privilege of serving the Spanish-speaking community, and my goal is to create a compassionate, supportive space where older adults could feel safe, understood and empowered.

My name is Susan Madson, I am a LCSW. I specialize in depression, anxiety, anger issues, identifying coping skills, build relationship skills, identify client strengths, increase self care tools, build self esteem, teach meditations skills, grounding, breathing exercises, and relaxation techniques. I help to reduce trauma symptoms by helping clients to learn self regulation skills. I encourage client to participate in homework assignments to build skills to stabilize a clients emotional and behavioral functioning. Further, specialties include addiction issues, grief work and couples therapy. My most common therapy techniques that I use first is client centered therapy approach. I start where the client is most comfortable and work on building a safe environment for the client. My first goal is to build a therapeutic relationship with my client. Then my goal is to work with strength based, cognitive behavioral therapy, DBT, solutions focused, interpersonal therapy, narrative therapy, and mindfulness therapy techniques. I use an eclectic approach as each client is different and has different needs. My goal is to help the client's to identify the fact that sometimes therapy is identifying the small steps that client is making towards their treatment goals.

You don’t need to have it all figured out to start therapy, just a willingness to show up as you are. I help people untangle the noise in their lives, understand what drives their choices, and build a more compassionate relationship with themselves. Together, we’ll look at what’s been keeping you stuck and explore new ways of aligning with who you want to become.

I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) based in California and a proud first-generation Mexican American. I received my master's degree from the University of Houston and bring both professional knowledge and personal perspective to the work I do. I am passionate about walking alongside others in their healing and growth journey. I understand that therapy is not “one size fits all,” and I strive to create a space that feels safe, collaborative, and tailored to your needs. My hope is to be the right match for you as we explore challenges, build resilience, and work toward the changes you seek.

Hi. I am a licensed marriage and family therapist. I use a wide range of interventions to establish a course that is personally tailored to clients. I graduated from Grand Canyon University with a doctorate degree in psychology with emphasis in cognition and instruction. I have a background in child development and 11 years providing psychotherapy services. I have worked with all populations.

PLEASE NOTE: I am a Gerontological Counselor. I believe in empowering older adults by fostering independence, resilience and sense of identity. Aging is a journey that should be met with dignity, respect, and opportunities for growth. By actively listening, providing tailored support, and encouraging self-determination, I can help older adults maintain their autonomy and confidence. Resilience is nurtured through meaningful connections, purposeful activities, and a focus on strengths rather than limitations. I am committed to honoring an individual's experiences, celebrating their uniqueness, and creating environments where people feel valued and capable. I challenge stereotypes about aging and promote a vision of later life filled with possibility and fulfillment.

Welcome to Grow Therapy. My name is Jose, and I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with over 10 years of experience supporting children, individuals, and families. I focus on strengths, collaboration, and use practical strategies that support lasting personal growth. I strive to create a truly warm, respectful environment where clients feel understood, supported, and empowered to grow.

Many people experience anxiety, depression, and many other emotional struggles. Often people feel there is no one they can trust and no one who can understand them. The impact of this emotional suffering can make daily life painful. It can put strain on relationships with family, friends, and peers. I specialize in working with people on an individual basis and have found that there are similar challenges that we all face while trying to navigate through our daily lives.

Hello, I’m a licensed marriage family therapist based in California. I received my master's in science in California and began practicing as a mental health therapist 10 years ago. I have experience helping adults and youth struggling with moderate to severe mental illness (i.e., anxiety, depression, mood disorders, trauma, and suicide prevention). I provide them with support and education on healthy coping strategies to overcome life challenges.

Hello, I am Coralia Valdez, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) in California. I have been working in the mental health field for over 25 years. Throughout my work as therapist, I believe that real change happens when you feel truly heard and supported. My goal is to create a safe, welcoming space where you can explore your challenges, discover your strengths, and move toward the life you want.

Hello I am a dedicated therapist who graduated from Antioch University in 2012 . I have worked at Las Encinas Hospital for 11 years before working for online platforms. I am committed to providing therapy to motivated individuals and couples. I provide a safe space for clients to share with me and we work together to achieve therapeutic goals. I enjoy helping clients discover coping skills which will make their life easier and more enjoyable. I enjoy working with anxiety, OCD, depression ,trauma, and substance abuse.

Keisha Owens received her bachelor's in psychology from Morgan State University and her master's in counseling psychology at National University. She has over 20 years of clinical experience across a variety of settings including outpatient specialty clinics, crisis intervention, Dual Diagnosed Substance Abuse outpatient programs, structured intensive outpatient programs, inpatient psychiatric, large nonprofits, and private practice. Keisha uses several therapeutic modalities and is trained in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Dialectical Behavior Therapy, Solution Focused Therapy and Crisis Intervention. She continues to seek ongoing updates to her skills and knowledge base. Keisha is invested in an approach emphasizing a more integrative, dynamic, and holistic approach to mental health. She is particularly concerned with the impact of loss and trauma and improving intervention to support trauma recovery for better emotional, physical and relationship health.

Hello! I am a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist (LMFT) based in sunny southern California, with my partner, of many years, John, and our three cats, three dogs, and tortoise, who by the way, is currently hibernating...and don't we all wish we could do that at times? I have many years of experience working with individuals, with a wide range of issues including anxiety, depression, low self-esteem and relationship challenges. I have worked in a variety of clinical settings and with many ethnic populations. My style is down-to-earth, relatable, sometimes direct, and always with a touch of humor. I love what I do and consider it an honor to help you resolve whatever it might be that is holding you back. I look forward to working with you! By the way, a former client recently said: "I am so grateful to have worked with you, you are truly gifted, and I have learned so much!"

I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker that has had experience in child welfare, foster care and medical social work. I have training in CISN (Critical Incident Stress Debriefing) as well as palliative care. I believe that clarity on a stressful situation or event can often come about after having opportunities to talk about it. My training has equipped me to help individuals identify ways to recognize their strengths and apply them to their current circumstances to change their outlook.