Therapists in Texas

Hello! I am a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC) in Texas. I received my Master's from Lamar University and have been practicing for 4 years. I help clients develop motivation for change and increase their coping skill tool kit to manage anxiety, anger, and depression. I will use CBT, trauma focused care, DBT, and Motivational Interviewing to help you reach your goals to help you feel the best version of you.

My name is Joseph Grote and I have been a counselor in the school setting with students ages 5-18 years of age. I have been a counselor at the elementary setting for 10 years and as a High School Counselor for 4 years. I have also worked as a college and career counselor for 5 years. I have counseled people with anxiety problems, peer relationships, parenting issues, and working with students with disabilities. I also am very knowledgeable in career counseling, degree planning, and transitioning from high school to college and college to careers.

I'm a Licensed Professional Counselor, Registered Play Therapist, Animal Assisted Play Therapist, Level l, Ketamine Assisted certified, previous Middle School Counselor, and Reiki trained. I have a Master's degree in Counseling from Texas A&M University. I have been a therapist for 20 years. I'm an intuitive therapist and use a somatic approach. I've worked in a variety of settings, education, clinical, and private.

Hi! I'm a Licensed Professional Counsellor (LPC) based in Texas. I received my Masters from Houston Baptist University and have been practicing for 6 years. I hold license to practice in state of Texas also Connecticut. I help teens and adults with different concerns and conflicts such as anxiety, depression, mood disorders, eating disorders also personality disorders to become the best version of themselves.

Hello! I'm Destiny, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) based in South Texas. With a passion for empowering individuals to achieve their full potential, I've dedicated myself to providing compassionate and effective therapy. I received my bachelor degree from the University of Iowa and my Master's degree from Our Lady of the Lake University. I believe life can be challenging enough without having to navigate it with anxiety, depression, or intrusive thoughts. I am here to help. I believe reaching out for help, or just talking to someone, is the most important thing you can do and maybe the most difficult. I pride myself in meeting my clients where they are at in their lives. I believe that my clients are the experts in their lives and flourish when they are given non-judgmental support and encouragement from their therapist.

As a bilingual Clinical Therapist , I work closely with clients to minimize the long-term effects of complex trauma. I use evidence-based therapies to help empower families, guiding them on their journey to healing and resilience despite the challenges they face. I am deeply passionate about creating a safe and compassionate space where every client feels heard, understood, and supported throughout their healing process.

I am here to help you through this part of your journey. I am available to listen and allow you to be heard, understood, and validated. I want to help you make positive changes to feel better and have a different outlook on life. I received a Master of Science in Social Work from the University of Texas Pan American in 2014 and started working on my Clinical license in 2019. I received my License in Clinical Social Work in 2021.

My professional experience working within counseling has allowed me to become skilled and comfortable in delivering solution focused therapy. My theoretical orientation aligns with Rational Emotive Behavioral Therapy, however, I hold a strong belief that a counselor should possess technical eclecticism and be comfortable and well-versed in many theoretical orientations and interventions in an effort to accommodate the varying and diverse individual needs of clients. With that goal in mind, I continue to stay immersed in other styles such as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and Narrative Therapy, to name a few, while also maintaining a Humanistic approach at the core of my counseling approach. When working with couples and families, I utilize Family Systems Therapy, Structural Therapy, Strategic Therapy and Transgenerational Therapy approaches as treatment modalities. I am also Gottman Level I certified and enjoy utilizing the Gottman Approach when working with couples.

Hi! I'm a Licensed Professional Counsellor (LPC) based in Texas. I received my Masters from Amberton University and I have been a counselor for six years. I help young adults struggling with career stress and burnout become the best versions of themselves. In addition, I’m here to support you through life’s most challenging transitions. Whether you're navigating a career change, personal growth, or relationship challenges, I offer a safe and supportive space to explore your journey

I am licensed in Texas with over 20 years of Therapy experience. I have experience in working with children, adolescents, and adults. I received my M.S at William Carey University in Psychology. My treatment approach is CBT, solution-focused, and client-centered. I specialize in working with individuals with anxiety, panic attacks, depression, PTSD, grief, marriage and family related problems, stress, and LGBTQ+.

Hello there, I'm Elizabeth How are you doing? How are you feeling today? Are you finding it difficult to navigate, manage and overcome daily and other life struggles? I want to start by appreciating you for taking the first step in your healing journey by being here because seeking therapy can be terrifying. It is never too soon or too late to ask for help and constructively work towards your life goals. Over the years, I have worked with individuals struggling with stressful situations, depression, anxiety ADHD, trauma-related issues etc. Let’s work through these challenges together to identify the problem, explore new and alternative ways to make changes and start building healthier habits. To get you there, we will use different evidence-based approaches based on the identified needs and goals.

¡Hola! Soy una Consejera Profesional y me apasiona profundamente apoyar a las personas a superar los desafíos más difíciles de la vida, ya sea lidiando con la ansiedad, la depresión, superando el abuso de sustancias, sanando de traumas o enfrentando otras experiencias complicadas. Mi enfoque es cálido, empático y centrado en el cliente, y creo en construir una relación de confianza y colaboración con cada persona con la que trabajo. Juntos exploraremos tus experiencias, desafíos y metas, creando un plan adaptado a tus necesidades y valores. Ya sea que busques alivio del malestar emocional, herramientas para manejar el estrés o guía durante una transición importante de la vida, estoy aquí para acompañarte en tu camino hacia la sanación y el crecimiento. Mi objetivo es empoderarte con las habilidades, conocimientos y confianza necesarios para crear cambios positivos y duraderos en tu vida. No tienes que enfrentarlo solo/a; trabajemos juntos para ayudarte a construir un futuro más saludable y pleno. Hi there! I'm a Licensed Professional Counselor and Licensed Chemical Dependency Counselor based in Texas. I’m deeply passionate about supporting individuals through life's toughest challenges, whether it’s managing anxiety and depression, overcoming substance abuse, healing from trauma, or navigating other difficult life experiences. My approach is warm, empathetic, and client-centered, and I believe in building a trusting, collaborative relationship with each person I work with. Whether you’re seeking relief from emotional distress, tools to cope with stress, or guidance through a significant life transition, I’m here to walk with you on your journey toward healing and growth. I aim to empower you with the skills, insights, and confidence to create lasting, positive change in your life. You don't have to face it alone—let’s work together to help you build a healthier, more fulfilling future.

Hi! I'm Sherry. Does life ever seem overwhelming, like you are pulling in a million different directions? Or do you feel stuck, like you are struggling to keep up? Have you forgotten who you are and how to be kind to yourself? Let's work together to create a way for you to find joy and purpose. My goal is to provide an environment where you feel safe to explore and express your thoughts and feelings. Let's create a room for you to heal and grow. In our sessions together, I'll meet you with compassion, warmth, and evidence-based techniques so you can overcome the hangups and habits holding you back. Let's work together!

Hi there! I would like to first commend you on taking the first step towards living a life that includes your most authentic self. As a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), I am afforded the opportunity to help guide you on that journey. My goal is to help you achieve your best self through a way that is comfortable for you. Through meaningful conversations, that goal can certainly be achieved!

I'm a Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor (LPC-S). I am licensed in Texas and Virginia. I provide a safe and supportive space for clients to explore their thoughts, feelings, and behaviors with no judgment. For example, I help adults struggling with career stress, relational challenges, and challenges with productivity (i.e., starting and completing tasks). I also work collaboratively with clients to identify underlying issues, set goals, and develop personalized treatment plans. I guide clients through the process to help build coping skills, improve emotional regulation, and foster personal growth.

I am a fun loving and energetic woman who is happy with life's journey thus far.... I am eager to share my experiences and some of what I have learned through life as well as professionally with others to help them better their own journey and day to day routine and lifestyle . I try to meet people where they are and accept them as who they are- no judgement and with lots of validation and compassion.

I am a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas with over 12 years of experience helping individuals of all ages navigate life's challenges. I earned my Master's degree in Counseling from Lamar University and am passionate about empowering my clients to take control of their thoughts, feelings, and behaviors. My approach is focused on providing support and guidance to help clients build resilience and achieve lasting positive change in their lives.

You do not have to struggle with your thoughts and emotions in silence. A peaceful life is possible no matter what the surrounding circumstances are. We are mostly troubled by our perceptions of the situations around us, not by the situations themselves. Sometimes, our thoughts are the scary part of our story, not our reality. And even when reality gets harsh, our thoughts and the way we see this reality will determine how we feel about it and how much we suffer. I am an LPC who practices mostly cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT). I share the tools that are not only evidence-based and supported by extensive research but also that I've seen work with me and my clients/patients. Working on our thoughts and behaviors will affect every aspect of our lives, and relationships. We do not have to be a hostage to our unhelpful thoughts, we have tools to work on that. Anxiety, depression, PTSD, OCD, and relationship troubles are only some of many examples where this kind of therapy can help, and I would like to be that therapist who can help you achieve that change in your life.

I believe that it should not be hard to live a better life, because people can change and there is hope. I, Daniell' Chisley, offer therapy services for adults and juveniles (13-17). We can come up with solutions together. I offer integrated treatment styles that are safe, inclusive, and tailored to you, so that you can feel heard and get the help that you need. Helping you to heal is my goal. I will guide you to acceptance, understanding, and developing results.

Hi! I'm a Licensed Professional Counsellor (LPC) based in Texas. I received my Masters from the University of Houston Clear Lake and have been practicing for 5 years. I help people from all ages with their mental health concerns. I'm focused on helping clients discover their strengths, build support systems, and foster holistic self-awareness. I firmly believe that the client is the expert of their own life and a key collaborator in treatment planning. I also believe in a cooperative approach to treating clients and welcome collaboration from family members.

Hello! And thank you for considering me to be your partner on your journey to wholeness and improvement. Congratulations on taking that pivotal first step to reach out for help. My name is Marisa Montes and I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. I have extensive experience in helping people who are at a crossroads and unsure of what their next steps will be. Many of those I have successfully worked with have gone through experiences that have marked them and left them reeling. In my practice, I use a variety of evidence based therapeutic techniques to equip clients to live life successfully and confront their challenges head on.

I hold sessions in the afternoons and night between 2:30 pm and 2:00 am Central Standard Time. The calendar here does not show sessions after 10 pm. If you would like to meet after 10 pm, please sign up for a session here, using any day/time and then message me though the interface with your needs/wants to schedule at a different time. I have been a therapist since 2015 with experience working with adolescents and adults suffering from trauma, grief, depression and anxiety. I have been honored to help people with a broad spectrum of backgrounds, circumstances and severities of trauma and concerns. Some examples: I have been the trauma specialist at juvenile detention centers, worked at Children's Advocacy Center, worked with those with chronic pain and long-haul covid, worked with those trying to resolve current struggles and wanting help with their mental health. I have a holistic viewpoint and believe in a mind-body-spirit connection of wellness. I believe in being in the moment with you, where you are, and will work at your pace towards your journey of healing and growth and I will help you with setting and working towards goals. Thank you for considering me to be your therapist. I look forward to joining you on your journey.

I'm a licensed clinical social worker who's been providing therapy for several years, and I'm a firm believer that therapy is most effective when someone has an authentic trusting relationship with their therapist. I am passionate about providing quality therapy via telehealth to adolescents and adults struggling with a variety of mental health concerns, and I specialize in the treatment of trauma. The relationship we have with ourselves and others can hurt us but also heal us, and therapy is a great way to achieve that healing.

Hello there! I'm a Licensed Professional Counsellor (LPC) based in Texas. I have been practicing for the past 15 years. I help individuals, couples, and families understand what information their thoughts, feelings, and emotions are informing them about so that I can support and empower them to become the best versions of themselves. This is done through practical and realistic strategies that integrate into their lives.

Hi! I'm a Licensed Marriage Family Therapist (LMFT) based in Texas with 7 years of experience. I help individuals, couples, and families learn to love and relate to one another in a more healthy and secure way based on a deeper understanding of each other’s experience and application of new skills. My clients seek me out when they've been experiencing relational distress and are unable to improve it on their own. You might consider me if you've tolerated your situation for years and the thought of continuing is so painful that you're on the brink of ending or cutting off the relationship unless things change.

I am dedicated to helping people navigate the complexities of family dynamics, trauma, and personal challenges with compassion and understanding. I specialize in addressing challenges like anxiety, depression, trauma, relationship struggles, and self-esteem issues. My aim is to create a safe and welcoming space where you can explore your feelings, grow emotionally, and build healthier relationships. If your goals include improving emotional regulation, building stronger relationships, gaining self-awareness, and fostering positive change, don't hesitate to contact me.

Welcome, my name is Karen Christopher, I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) in the State of Texas. I have over 20 years experience serving people. I am also a retired military spouse. I enjoy supporting people in all phases of life. I work with adults who experience depressive mood, anxiety, grief, PTSD, job related stress, martial issues and other concerns as well.

Hi, I am a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC) based in Texas. I received my Masters from Southwestern Assemblies of God University and my MDIV from Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary. I have been practicing for 6 years. I help teenagers to 70 year old adults through a gamut of life issues providing them a safe space to process, get greater understanding and clarity and to have peace.

I am a Licensed Professional Counselor in the state of Texas. I have been working with families and children for over two decades as a teacher, a school counselor, and in private practice. I am here to help with the healing process and support emotions that arise through life’s many transitions. Rest assured that when working with me, you will be met with understanding, compassion, and a non-judgmental approach.

Hi there. I'm Brian. Life is a journey. Sometimes that journey feels simple and finding our footing is easy. But at other times, the road appears dark and we find ourselves feeling anxious, confused, lonely, and struggling to know how to take the next step. Sometimes, we just need some help. As your therapist, I love that my job is to come along side of you in your journey and be a guide. Whether your facing the biggest battle of your life or wanting to climb to new heights, we can navigate the road together for a bit. It's your journey. I looking forward to joining you on it!

I am Rhonda, a highly experienced counselor dedicated to supporting individuals across all age groups, including military families, through various life stages. As a military parent and former middle school teacher and counselor, I possess a deep understanding of family dynamics and the challenges unique to these environments. My expertise includes addressing family structure challenges and guiding clients through grief and loss using evidence-based methods such as Solution Focused Brief Treatment and Grief Therapy. I specialize in working with school-aged children, adolescents, and military families, offering a safe and compassionate space for healing, growth, and overcoming personal obstacles.

I am a licensed professional counselor with experience working with mental health, trauma, addiction, grief, and couples counseling. I am here to walk alongside you and see the world as you see it. I believe that with support, people can change their beliefs, thoughts, and behaviors in order to live productively and joyfully. It is my hope to build trust in a therapeutic relationship by providing safe and nonjudgmental therapy. My desire is for you to feel comfortable in relating your goals and needs. I will collaborate with you in understanding what will work best for you to reach those goals and get your needs met. Through knowledge, encouragement, support, and relationship, I will help you reach your full potential.

Welcome! I'm DiAna Escamilla. Please take a moment to acknowledge that you have taken the first step towards bettering your mental health—yay! I want to thank you for taking the time to read my profile. I hope my vast experience will be a good fit for you. I have been a licensed professional counselor since 1995 when I retired from the ARMY. I'm a mother of six children and understand the stress of raising children as a single parent. I am bilingual in Spanish and English. I have worked in various settings, collecting a broad range of experience with diverse clients. I strive to create a safe and welcoming environment that allows clients to explore their obstacles to feeling emotionally healthy, and to try to understand and heal the mistreatment they have endured. We can do this in the privacy of my office or virtually.

I am a Licensed Professional Counselor with a Master of Science in Mental Health Counseling from Tarleton State University. I have worked in the mental health field for over 8 years. I have worked with individuals with a variety of mental health diagnoses. I feel that understanding ourselves and the root causes of our negative emotions is essential for personal growth. Once we make connections and learn triggers to our behaviors then we can implement strategies to help improve negative or maladaptive thought patterns. I am a therapist who will listen and reflect on your everyday struggles. I will ask questions to provoke thoughts and challenge negative thought patterns.

Hello. I am a licensed clinical social worker (LCSW) based out of Texas. Throughout my 18 years as a social worker, I have worked with families, survivors of domestic violence, and veterans. I have practiced as a therapist the past 8 years in general mental health. I have worked with a variety of clients providing therapy services for depression, PTSD, anxiety, anger management, and insomnia.

Howdy! I am honored to be a part of your journey of healing and helping you become the best version of yourself. I have a passion for building deeply rooted connections with all of my clients. My experience as a special education teacher, school administrator, high school counselor, and special education counselor for 28 years has provided me the knowledge and skills to work with your child, adolescent, and even adults who are struggling with anxiety, depression, ADHD, trauma, addiction, or PTSD. Understanding how these challenges ultimately affect behaviors in the classroom, at home, and in the workplace environments, help fuel my passion to connect, learn and problem solve with my clients and their families on an interpersonal level in an effort to build hope and resilience. I received my education and training in understanding behavioral, emotional, learning and psychological disorders, as well as professional school counseling and mental health counseling from Texas A & M University in College Station, Texas.

Hi, I'm a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC) based in Texas. I received my Master's from Lamar University in Beaumont Texas. I have been practicing for less than 5 years. I am a practical, and down-to-earth individual. As a clinician, I help families, young adults, couples, and individuals by providing a safe and non-judgmental space for them to explore their thoughts and feelings. My approach to therapy is compassionate and client-centered, focusing on their unique needs and goals.

I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker who specializes in working with adults who are struggling with anxiety, depression, trauma, insomnia, chronic pain and/or chronic illness. Other areas of focus that I can help you with include relationship issues, anger, stress-management, physical and learning disabilities including ADD/ADHD, life-stage issues and self-esteem. My professional career began as a certified American Sign Language Interpreter in 2001 and quickly progressed into earning a Graduate degree in Social Work at the University of Texas at Austin. My training provided the experience needed to work in a community mental health clinic providing high quality mental health care to residents in Austin, TX for 6 years. My interests in whole health led me to San Antonio to work with chronic illness, transplant, and geriatric care for roughly 10 years. Along this journey, I have had the opportunity to work with multinational clients seeking refugee services, worked as the Associate Director for Student Accessibility Services at a private university and currently involved in a fulfilling career as a counselor to veterans of our Armed Forces. I enjoy staying busy. On my time off, I thoroughly enjoy spending time with my friends and family, always searching for my next adventure.

I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Texas, bringing over five years of professional experience to my practice. I earned my Bachelor of Arts degree from Texas Lutheran University in 2010, followed by a Master’s degree in Marriage and Family Therapy from Abilene Christian University in Dallas, Texas, completed in May 2021. Dedicated to supporting individuals and families, I am committed to fostering meaningful connections and promoting emotional well-being. Outside of my professional life, I cherish spending quality time with my family and our three dogs, Dottie, Minnie, and Annie. My personal interests include enjoying films with my husband—particularly Star Wars and Lord of the Rings—reading, singing and dancing in the car with my son, and telling corny joke.

Hi, I'm Sondra! My mission is to help individuals and families improve their lives through effective mental health counseling. My goal is to empower my clients and offer them skills that will help them overcome the challenges they face, so they can live a full and happy life. I believe it's my job to be there to assist my clients as they overcome life's challenges

My name is Elizabeth and I am a licensed professional counselor (LPC) in the states of Texas and Arizona. I am also a certified school counselor and transitioned to full-time mental health counseling after working as a high school counselor. I have been working as a counselor for 10 years, primarily in the school setting. I helped my students with issues such as family problems, academic struggles, relationship issues, trauma/abuse, ADHD, autism, depression, anxiety, perfectionism, grief, and suicidal ideation. Before working as a counselor, I was an elementary teacher for 6 years. I have experience working with adults and adolescents. I love seeing my clients understand themselves better and improve their mental health. I feel comfortable counseling people from a variety of backgrounds, especially those whose backgrounds are different than my own. My entire professional career has been spent with a primarily Hispanic population, but I am comfortable with other cultures, as well. I am a big fan of CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy) and Solutions-focused therapy, but I try to cater my counseling to each client, so I often incorporate different counseling philosophies as needed. I believe my clients are the experts on their own lives and I want to work with them to improve their contentment, coping skills, and mental health. I believe it is important and beneficial to have a nonjudgmental, unbiased person to talk to. This is one of the best parts of counseling. I often use humor to lighten the mood when counseling. I find this helps grow my relationships with my clients. Congratulations on making the first step towards getting help. I would love to work with you.

I have been a dedicated and compassionate advocate for clients with moderate to advanced therapy needs for several years and try to approach each client with compassion and respect. Throughout the years I have gained useful experience working with a wide range of population, while developing a speciality area in the treatment of women’s issues and challenges. We will work together to build a treatment plan that encourages your success.

I specialize in brief collaborative therapy where we look at current issues, how you cope, how you learned the coping skills and alternatives solutions. We will look at your self-care including spirituality and how to improve your self care if needed. Weekly assignment tasks related to your short term goals will be agreed upon. We will work together to learn and understand where you are now and how the past has impacted you. Engaging in therapy can be anxiety provoking, exciting and freeing. If you are willing to work on our mutually agreed upon assignment between our counseling sessions, you will find we make progress. I worked in criminal justice prior to being licensed in Michigan where I grew up and studied. Upon moving to Chicagoland, I worked 10 years with a crisis response team and an employee assistance program. This is where I learned to develop skills to drill down into client issues and work with the client to reduce discomfort and improve coping skills. Our counseling sessions did not last beyond 6-8 meetings. I moved to Texas in 2003 and since then have continued to work on crisis teams and with military members/spouses on installations. My practice has been focused on supporting couples communications; life transitions including grief/loss, career transitions, parenting skills and integrating/applying client's spiritual practice into every day life. Clients describe me as safe to talk with about difficult topics; active and contributing to the dialog; creative in opening up behavioral and cognitive options.

Hello! I'm a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC) practicing in Texas for over 20 years. I believe in creating a safe and supportive environment where you can explore your thoughts and feelings without judgment. My approach combines evidence-based techniques such as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and Motivational Interviewing to help you navigate life's challenges. Together, we will work towards understanding your unique needs and developing personalized strategies for growth and healing. I look forward to accompanying you on this journey toward a more fulfilling life.

Hi, I’m Tammy. Are you struggling with trauma from your past? I help with trauma stemming from childhood. I work with physical, sexual or emotional abuse that has been experienced. Together we can identify stuck points and work on resolving them. Whether you are dealing with trauma, anxiety, or depression, I’m here to help. Seeking therapy can be difficult but you are making the right choice. You deserve a safe place to heal and grow. Together we will work towards reaching your goals. I look forward to working with you

With over 18 years working with At-Risk Teens/Adolescents and 5 years as a Therapist, I have created a multidisciplinary intervention and treatment process that specializes in teen/adolescent behavioral health. Iam energetic, unbiased, and truly care about the well being of my clients and their families. I am considered an accountability therapist who pushes clients to become the best versions of themselves. ​

Hello! I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) in Texas. I received a Master's in Social Work in 2017 from Our Lady of the Lake University in San Antonio, Texas. I have been practicing social work for 7 years and have been a therapist for over 5 years. I help adults, individuals and adolescents cope with life's stressors and current challenges. I guide them in learning how to navigate the world by learning coping skills to face their challenges. I assist them in learning that self-care and self-healing honors who they are now, and aids them in taking back their power.

I am a dedicated therapist specializing in cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) for children, teens, and adults. With a focus on empowering individuals, I help them navigate challenges such as anxiety, depression, stress, behavioral issues, and trauma. My approach fosters resilience and effective coping strategies, ensuring that my clients can thrive in their daily lives. With nearly 10 years working in schools, I also hope to build resilience in students and educators.

Hello! I am an LPC licensed in Texas. I have been working as a school counselor for 5 years and have had experience in the following areas: school, career, trauma, anxiety, military, special needs children, and suicidal ideations. I have worked with clients from 6 years old all the way up to 19 years old and have been able to see them blossom and I am looking forward to working with you! By the way. . .I am also bilingual (Spanish and English)!

I'm a compassionate mental health therapist. My primary focus is on empowering my clients with practical tools and strategies to manage their anxiety effectively. I have a deep passion for working with women facing various mental health challenges, offering them support and guidance through their journey to healing. Additionally, I love assisting couples in developing healthy conflict resolution skills, fostering stronger and more fulfilling relationships. My approach is rooted in empathy, understanding, and evidence-based interventions tailored to the unique needs of each individual and couple you work with.